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Does help if you mention the make, model & year of the bike!
Always start simple: one brake light, two switches and some wiring. If the rear switch works as expected the first thing to check would be the front switch
Do a resistance check on that switch and see if it's even working. ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Before faffing with a multi-meter..personally I would have a look at the front brake lever.... as said theres usually a micro-switch behind the lever blade that is 'pressed for off'. So when you pull in the brake lever the plunger pops out the switch and turns 'on' the brake lamp....
2 things, first is the two wires on the switch may come loose, esp if you use a brakle-lock opr have just cleaned the bike or replaced grips or woprse, dropped it, or scraped it up the side of the house wall etc... Check the wires are there and making contact... pull back the condoms and touch the spades together to by-pass the switch... brake lamp should come on.
Next, does the switch plunger pop out? Crack betwen lever blade and bracket where switch sits is notoriouse crud trap, clean carefully, and add lube to make sure switch is switchin when lever pulled... switches can and do go sticky over time, and lever blades get bent and switches get sloppy on the mounts. Look carefully, twiddle the mounting screws, mess with the lever, when you clean, and see if it works better.
Should be obvious when you look, and fiddle... no muylti-meter or wiring diagram required... just patience, a tooth brush, a tooth pick, and some deturgent! Maybe a bit of 3in1.... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | Before faffing with a multi-meter..personally I would have a look at the front brake lever.... as said theres usually a micro-switch behind the lever blade that is 'pressed for off'. So when you pull in the brake lever the plunger pops out the switch and turns 'on' the brake lamp....
2 things, first is the two wires on the switch may come loose, esp if you use a brakle-lock opr have just cleaned the bike or replaced grips or woprse, dropped it, or scraped it up the side of the house wall etc... Check the wires are there and making contact... pull back the condoms and touch the spades together to by-pass the switch... brake lamp should come on.
Next, does the switch plunger pop out? Crack betwen lever blade and bracket where switch sits is notoriouse crud trap, clean carefully, and add lube to make sure switch is switchin when lever pulled... switches can and do go sticky over time, and lever blades get bent and switches get sloppy on the mounts. Look carefully, twiddle the mounting screws, mess with the lever, when you clean, and see if it works better.
Should be obvious when you look, and fiddle... no muylti-meter or wiring diagram required... just patience, a tooth brush, a tooth pick, and some deturgent! Maybe a bit of 3in1.... |
Ignore this twat.
First job is to see if the switch works. Disconnect it, multimeter set to 'continuity' see if it works. ____________________ trevor saxe-coburg-gotha:"Remember this simple rule - scooters are for men who like to feel the breeze on their huge, flapping cunt lips."
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How it works
Basically:
You have a wire going to the brake light element in the rear light (35)
which is grounded locally along with other tail bulbs.
Both front and rear brake light switches can apply voltage to that wire
so one, the other, or both can light up the bulb.
Some/many have spring loaded front brake switches have contacts held open until
the lever moves away from it when pulled.
This allows the contacts to close thereby applying voltage to the brake light bulb.
Some may have a pressure switch on the hydraulic part which essentially does the same.
Testing is pretty simple
Get a meter
Test for power to the switch on the Brown wire
and power out when in use on the Green/yellow
No power in, check wiring
No power out, bad or ill positioned switch
Heres a diagram which may help
Item 45 is the one you want
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | | Teflon-Mike wrote: | Before faffing with a multi-meter..personally I would have a look at the front brake lever.... as said theres usually a micro-switch behind the lever blade that is 'pressed for off'. So when you pull in the brake lever the plunger pops out the switch and turns 'on' the brake lamp....
2 things, first is the two wires on the switch may come loose, esp if you use a brakle-lock opr have just cleaned the bike or replaced grips or woprse, dropped it, or scraped it up the side of the house wall etc... Check the wires are there and making contact... pull back the condoms and touch the spades together to by-pass the switch... brake lamp should come on.
Next, does the switch plunger pop out? Crack betwen lever blade and bracket where switch sits is notoriouse crud trap, clean carefully, and add lube to make sure switch is switchin when lever pulled... switches can and do go sticky over time, and lever blades get bent and switches get sloppy on the mounts. Look carefully, twiddle the mounting screws, mess with the lever, when you clean, and see if it works better.
Should be obvious when you look, and fiddle... no muylti-meter or wiring diagram required... just patience, a tooth brush, a tooth pick, and some deturgent! Maybe a bit of 3in1.... |
Ignore this twat.
First job is to see if the switch works. Disconnect it, multimeter set to 'continuity' see if it works. |
Seems a little unfair.
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| BananaLover wrote: | ...There was voltage going through the yellow wire, the same voltage as when the rear brake is pressed. Why? I tested that because the manual said so, why the hell would there be power going to the taillight but it didn't wouldn't work? Also, is the constant current through the yellow wire a problem? |
TBH I've had too many beers to squint at that circuit diagram but consider that there are two ways a bulb and switch arrangement can work:
+ switch bulb -
or
+ bulb switch -
So a switch can either supply power or "supply" ground  ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 328 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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