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PostPosted: 20:11 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

Hi Guys..

I'm in my 40's and as I am going through my mid life crisis, I have a bike!

Long story, but wanted a 50cc for a new expensive short commute I have to do. Have a granddad license, so no stress.

Then to respect the road I did a manual CBT and loved it.

So, I am now the proud owner of a 2016 Yamaha YBR 125!
It's a little battered and needs some TLC, but as I am mechanically minded and have my first purchase for it (Haynes Manual).

I can see my self having 6 months on the road and doing my A license in the summer and maybe upgrading.


But for now, it's my little commuter bit of fun!



Anything I should watch out for on this little bike?



Couple of questions. I don't anywhere to put anything, like storage boxes, is this just my fault for getting this kind of bike? (I had to google what naked meant).


Also insurance. It wasn't very expensive, and for what it is to me, and how I'll use it. I am tempted to avoid my best Fully Comp quote of £300 and just pay the £90 I have been quoted for third party.

After the excess and hassle, I'm not sure fully comp is worth my while?

Anyway, thanks for the warm welcome.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a 2016 Yamaha YBR 125!
It's a little battered and needs some TLC, but as I am mechanically minded and have my first purchase for it (Haynes Manual).


Anything I should watch out for on this little bike?


Couple of questions. I don't anywhere to put anything, like storage boxes, is this just my fault for getting this kind of bike? (I had to google what naked meant).


Also insurance. It wasn't very expensive, and for what it is to me, and how I'll use it. I am tempted to avoid my best Fully Comp quote of £300 and just pay the £90 I have been quoted for third party.


Well Done!

If you change the oil and filter, and oil and tension the chain, replacing it & sprockets as needed, which will be fairly rarely if you keep the chain liubricated, you will be doing more than most. There will be a "periodic maintenance" bit in the book, refer to it for other stuff. Not sure anything particular stands out. If it's scruffy you could paint some Waxoyl onto various bits to help preserve them.

I'd be inclined to get a top box and panniers to keep stuff in. I wouldn't have a tank bag.

I tend to agree about the insurance. You could spend some £ on a decent lock, and chuck it in one of the panniers when you're on the move, the weight won't make much if any noticeable difference.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

40?

Old?

You, sir, are flirting with my enemy list.....
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
40?

Old?

You, sir, are flirting with my enemy list.....



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PostPosted: 21:07 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should I get your nurse to slip another rum into your bedtime nightcap?
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:

Anything I should watch out for on this little bike?


A very common issue on these is the ignition lock wearing internally or becoming corroded. You will know it's happened when the bike will turn over but not start and you get error code 19. It happened on my YBR and I see someone asking about it every couple of weeks on Facebook. I dont really know how to stop it apart from keeping it dry if it's left outside and spray the keyhole with contact cleaner if it does happen.

It also seems to be very common for the exhaust to rust so it's worth keeping an eye on it.

Did your bike not come with a metal rack on the back for a top box? People usually do take them off because it looks a little better.
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/fUgAAOSwX8NakXD1/$_86.JPG
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:
Long story, but wanted a 50cc for a new expensive short commute I have to do. Have a granddad license, so no stress. Then to respect the road I did a manual CBT and loved it.

I'd hope you already know, but anyway, AFAIK you can't ride on motorways, carry a pillion passenger, or ride without L-plates.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Should I get your nurse to slip another rum into your bedtime nightcap?


If you can persuade her I'd die a happy bunny.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
ChipBike wrote:
Long story, but wanted a 50cc for a new expensive short commute I have to do. Have a granddad license, so no stress. Then to respect the road I did a manual CBT and loved it.

I'd hope you already know, but anyway, AFAIK you can't ride on motorways, carry a pillion passenger, or ride without L-plates.


He can do 2 of them on a 50...
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
ChipBike wrote:
Long story, but wanted a 50cc for a new expensive short commute I have to do. Have a granddad license, so no stress. Then to respect the road I did a manual CBT and loved it.

I'd hope you already know, but anyway, AFAIK you can't ride on motorways, carry a pillion passenger, or ride without L-plates.


Well in all honesty. I can...
It would just be illegal..

I know, I'm a car person at the moment.
I can't keep paying for the tunnel and paying to park in a city centre.
My commute is going to be 15-20 mins of fun.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the insurance. If you can afford to replace it, just go for the TPF&T.

By the time you've bought the policy then paid for the excess and five years loading following a claim, you could have bought another one.

I'd move that if the £230 you save was spent on training instead, it would be far more useful for preventing crash damage happening in the first place.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 27 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
ChipBike wrote:

Anything I should watch out for on this little bike?


A very common issue on these is the ignition lock wearing internally or becoming corroded. You will know it's happened when the bike will turn over but not start and you get error code 19. It happened on my YBR and I see someone asking about it every couple of weeks on Facebook. I dont really know how to stop it apart from keeping it dry if it's left outside and spray the keyhole with contact cleaner if it does happen.

It also seems to be very common for the exhaust to rust so it's worth keeping an eye on it.

Did your bike not come with a metal rack on the back for a top box? People usually do take them off because it looks a little better.
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/fUgAAOSwX8NakXD1/$_86.JPG



That looks mint.

Things I have to do to get it to my standard. (and yours).

Replace the plastic around and including the headlight (damaged). ebay, or aliexpress appear silly cheap.

Replace the front mud guard (Broken).

The plastics around the exhaust are damaged, and exhaust is rusted.

Odd scrapes and scratches (t cut?)

Some chrome damaged. (Not sure)

Engine mucky and bottom bolt missing. (Some spray on wipe off cleaning can of something?)

Basic service, drop oil, filters etc.

I actually love it already.



With regards to the back box, it does have the chrome frame on, so is there a special fitting one like yours, or will a universal one do?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:

Things I have to do to get it to my standard. (and yours).


I wouldn't bother with most of that beyond servicing. You are probably old enough to be affluent enough you'll have your full licence and a big bike in less than a year. As long as you don't wrap it round a tree you will see your money back on the 125. If you start OCD'ing about plastic trim you are just sinking cost.

Also guessing your commute is in to London, if you make it look nice then ride it through the 3rd world it just increases chances of theft.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the above. If it's a commuter hack, spend the tarting up money on a good lock and chain instead. Almax and Pragmasis make good stuff that should last a lifetime, but the heavy duty stuff is.. heavy to lug about.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy has some useful maintenance videos on the YBR :-

https://www.youtube.com/user/ngraphic/videos

From the two I've had I've found that if the bike starts to feel like it doesn't want to shift from 1st to 2nd cleanly, oil and adjust your chain Smile
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:
Hi Guys..

I'm in my 40's and as I am going through my mid life crisis, I have a bike.

So, I am now the proud owner of a 2016 Yamaha YBR 125!

But for now, it's my little bit of fun!
Anything I should watch out for on this little bike


Welcome.......40’s, old! You’re having a laugh!
2016 Yamaha YBR 125, yer that’s cool, enjoy Thumbs Up

What should you watch out for?, some scumbag stealing it, get a good padlock and chain
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
ChipBike wrote:
Hi Guys..

I'm in my 40's and as I am going through my mid life crisis, I have a bike.

So, I am now the proud owner of a 2016 Yamaha YBR 125!

But for now, it's my little bit of fun!
Anything I should watch out for on this little bike


Welcome.......40’s, old! You’re having a laugh!
2016 Yamaha YBR 125, yer that’s cool, enjoy Thumbs Up

What should you watch out for?, some scumbag stealing it, get a good padlock and chain



I have a alarmed disc lock.
I also have a massive solid chain. I'm not sure the lock is the best. It's a round master one (https://www.toolstation.com/master-lock-excell-stainless-steel-disc-padlock/p90540)


Any recommendations on a new padlock?

When attempting insurance, I could see approximately 100+ locks on the drop down and have no idea what a chain and lock come under?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:

When attempting insurance, I could see approximately 100+ locks on the drop down and have no idea what a chain and lock come under?


I declare nothing, luckily living rural that makes no real difference to my cost. Your experience on price will vary.

Reasoning is though if you declare it you have to use it, Sods law the 1 time you pop inside for a shit while cleaning it, and don't chain it up during, is the time some oxygen thief will throw it in back of a Tranny van.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
ChipBike wrote:

Things I have to do to get it to my standard. (and yours).


I wouldn't bother with most of that beyond servicing. You are probably old enough to be affluent enough you'll have your full licence and a big bike in less than a year. As long as you don't wrap it round a tree you will see your money back on the 125. If you start OCD'ing about plastic trim you are just sinking cost.

Also guessing your commute is in to London, if you make it look nice then ride it through the 3rd world it just increases chances of theft.


Wirral - Liverpool Tunnel which is currently £3.60 for my car and £4-£14 to park depending on how long I want to walk.
Alternatively drive to a station and get a packed train for £4+ a day.


Bike will be 15 mins, and free to drive in the tunnel and park in specific motorbike bays (Free).


It's a no brainer, and I loved the CBT and know I'll have my A license this year.
I have to remember it's a commuter, when I starting looking at bigger bikes, I'd be more worried about damage or theft.




So, damage.
If this links - https://imgur.com/a/0SE8f97

I do need to get some very cheap parts to fix it. I am sure it's an MOT failure as the headlight is not 100% secured. The visor is off the bike.

It's not expensive, complete Yamaha replacement comes in at under £100, and on wish or aliexpress I can get the bits for under £50.

No idea how they can sell the full light assembly new for under £20 delivered.

I want to make the exhaust nice and black as it is brown and a little rusty. (What product for that).

Also want to unrust some of the bits and bolts? (Again, good cleaning products)


Thanks for the warm welcome to the forum by the way, and I'll watch the videos overt the weekend, as well as reading the Haynes manual!
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

Ayrton wrote:
ChipBike wrote:

Anything I should watch out for on this little bike?


A very common issue on these is the ignition lock wearing internally or becoming corroded. You will know it's happened when the bike will turn over but not start and you get error code 19. It happened on my YBR and I see someone asking about it every couple of weeks on Facebook. I dont really know how to stop it apart from keeping it dry if it's left outside and spray the keyhole with contact cleaner if it does happen.

It also seems to be very common for the exhaust to rust so it's worth keeping an eye on it.

Did your bike not come with a metal rack on the back for a top box? People usually do take them off because it looks a little better.
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTc2WDEwMjQ=/z/fUgAAOSwX8NakXD1/$_86.JPG



Hi.

What back box is that, I really like the snug fit and size.

Below is my current frame, so looks like it is fine to just attach?
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:

Hi.

What back box is that, I really like the snug fit and size.

Below is my current frame, so looks like it is fine to just attach?


That looks a generic cheap top box which is all you need. Something like this where you attach the base plate to the rack and the box snaps on and off.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Motorbike-Motorcycle-XL-52L-Universal-Fitting-Luggage-Top-Box-Fits-2-Helmets/112268871078?hash=item1a23bf05a6:g:OgEAAOSwx0teS4Fv

Givi do a much better quality job that will cost you more like £80 with the box and mounting plate.

There are literally hundreds of suppliers and boxes to chose from and as long as you secure the base plate properly (flat bar under the rack) they will all do the job.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Re: Old man, new rider! Reply with quote

ChipBike wrote:
I want to make the exhaust nice and black as it is brown and a little rusty. (What product for that).

You'll be wanting Autosol then.

I do second what others have said though... if you're enjoying riding as much as you say, and you have the cash, I guarantee you'll be wanting to upsize the YBR sooner rather than later so I wouldn't be spending too much time and effort on it...!
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheap Chinese headlamp units are cheap and Chinese. Usually nasty. Is the headlamp itself firmly attached? If it is, should pass an MOT. The "visor" is just bodywork, you could take it off altogether for the MOT.

I've had cheap headlamps and they are invariably total shite. So if the original one will keep, go with it. £100 is very cheap for an OEM headlamp and cowl, not a bad option.

Paint black exhaust parts with PJ1 paint. They will rust again. Painted mild steel exhausts are like the Forth Bridge in that respect.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 28 Feb 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Cheap Chinese headlamp units are cheap and Chinese. Usually nasty. Is the headlamp itself firmly attached? If it is, should pass an MOT. The "visor" is just bodywork, you could take it off altogether for the MOT.

I've had cheap headlamps and they are invariably total shite. So if the original one will keep, go with it. £100 is very cheap for an OEM headlamp and cowl, not a bad option.

Paint black exhaust parts with PJ1 paint. They will rust again. Painted mild steel exhausts are like the Forth Bridge in that respect.


The assembly is loose, I need a surround at the very least.
I'll take your advice about the headlamp unit, although could you look and see if you think the scrapes on the front of it are an MOT failure.
Also, is there a way of polishing them out without damaging it any more?

Thanks in advance.
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