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Islander
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 01 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Very interesting and far more believable than the Chinese version of events which Islander is pushing.


So which Chinese version is this exactly?

The Forbes article was written by a highly respected American professor who was born in San Francisco. You'd have realised this if you'd made a small amount of effort rather than resorting to your normal backstops of dogma and xenophobia.

This is the "Chinese" source:

https://sph.cuny.edu/people/bruce-y-lee/

Because you're avoiding reasoned debate as usual, I've extracted the sources quoted in the Forbes article here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins/

First, from the seething hotbed of Chinese communism that is the highly respected New England Journal of Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2002106?query=TOC#

Then we have the eastern imperialist we-shall-overthrow-the-economies-of-the-west and again highly respected scientific journal Nature Medicine:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2002106?query=TOC#

I know you won't take the time or effort to read these because, well, dogma, but I've made the effort on the slim slim offchance you might just try to educate yourself for once or even join in intelligent debate.

I'm not holding my breath though Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 01 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
There is no coincidence. Your approach to any incident is, "Which foreigner has deliberately done this to me?" You then invent a story to suit your agenda. Face real life.


This is the tactic he uses. You put forth a reasoned, researched and cited argument, he ignores it and attempts to insult and malign it. He never addresses the point you make or joins in intelligent debate. He's a creature of pure unreasoned dogma. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 01 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can’t be arsed getting into an argument with you.
You trust the CCP and think this is all just a massive coincidence.

Good for you.


Laughing Laughing You just confirmed what we just said. No reasoned argument, just an assumption that a foreigner's agenda has targeted you.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 01 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can’t be arsed getting into an argument with you.
You trust the CCP and think this is all just a massive coincidence.

Good for you.


Would that be because I've just demolished your bioweapon argument?

Oh and shown your claim that my evidence was Chinese to be wrong?

Nah, it's just that you don't debate, you just propagate xenophobia and paranoia Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:54 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is a bioweapon... wait! hear me out Smile

The tinfoil-hat cats are all going "created in a lab" but that would backfire eventually when it's discovered the virus is artificial. Much better to create the virus using the natural, all organic lab they already have: unhygienic meat markets. Granted, one can't exactly predict the timing of any "creation" but one could have a rapid reaction plan in place...

China has got richer and more consumer oriented. The people have more disposable income, they buy themselves nice things and yet... they still eat absolute shit Shocked AFAIK (anecdotally from the various Far Eastern nationalities I've spoken to) everyone looks down on Chinese cuisine.

Almost like someone was encouraging this lack of culinary progress Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not that living standards have decreased, it's that uncontrolled immigration has brought in third world morals, behaviour and pushed housing prices up.




Woohooo back on form MPD!
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think it is a bioweapon... wait! hear me out Smile

The tinfoil-hat cats are all going "created in a lab" but that would backfire eventually when it's discovered the virus is artificial. Much better to create the virus using the natural, all organic lab they already have: unhygienic meat markets. Granted, one can't exactly predict the timing of any "creation" but one could have a rapid reaction plan in place...

China has got richer and more consumer oriented. The people have more disposable income, they buy themselves nice things and yet... they still eat absolute shit Shocked AFAIK (anecdotally from the various Far Eastern nationalities I've spoken to) everyone looks down on Chinese cuisine.

Almost like someone was encouraging this lack of culinary progress Thinking


Oh dear that's the worst conspiracy theory ive heard so far.
You need to read up dude https://www.davidicke.com/
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I have some neighbours who are Gnomes. They believe that the Chinese are going to take over the world via a global network of take-aways. According to them Chinese takeaway workers are actually Chinese military and will at some point storm out of their take-aways and restaurants and butcher us all. I imagine they shit themselves everytime our postie is in the street as hes from Hong Kong. The fact takeaways are still operating will be confirming all their beliefs.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it hard to believe they engineered someting necessitating a near total shutdown of their manufacturing base for a period of weeks.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Oh dear that's the worst conspiracy theory ive heard so far. Cool


Thanks Wink
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I find it hard to believe they engineered someting necessitating a near total shutdown of their manufacturing base for a period of weeks.


Ah! But it happened over Lunar New Year so they would have been shut down anyway...

https://izismile.com/img/img13/20200226/640/protect_your_cat_with_a_tinfoil_hat_640_16.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why would they want to ruin the economies of all the countries that they sell stuff to?

Arguably the Chinese economy is the strongest in the world already. This will just drag then into recession along with the rest of the world.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Written by? A yes, Bruce Y. Lee, a Chinese man.

Definitely impartial then, the Chinese communist government will have no control over him.


He'd kick the shit out of them if they tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQfzvQFTtEw


Not a patch on Chuck Norris.

He who slammed the revolving door.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

As predicted, premier league football clubs are behaving in a disgusting manner.

Non playing staff facing wages cuts, 80% taxpayer funding.

Meanwhile, £300k/week players get full pay Dance!
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Easy-X wrote:
I think it is a bioweapon... wait! hear me out Smile

The tinfoil-hat cats are all going "created in a lab" but that would backfire eventually when it's discovered the virus is artificial. Much better to create the virus using the natural, all organic lab they already have: unhygienic meat markets. Granted, one can't exactly predict the timing of any "creation" but one could have a rapid reaction plan in place...

China has got richer and more consumer oriented. The people have more disposable income, they buy themselves nice things and yet... they still eat absolute shit Shocked AFAIK (anecdotally from the various Far Eastern nationalities I've spoken to) everyone looks down on Chinese cuisine.

Almost like someone was encouraging this lack of culinary progress Thinking


Going by the Youtube video where the bloke points out that the CCP have been putting huge efforts since 2018, into studying bats carrying Coronavirus and how it can be mutated and passed on to humans, I'm guessing that's the point he's making.

If the disappearing ground zero first infection woman is true, the silencing of her and the doctor who discovered it in the wild, with the CCP hiding the spread until it had gone global, this looks exactly like a deliberate escape.

Add in the fact that they were hugely prepared, had a virus which generally kills unproductive people and is hitting the West over 40 times harder than China, if figures are to be believed, this couldn't have gone any better if it was man made. This way, by developing and planning a release of a natural virus, it would be near impossible to pin it on them as a deliberate action. Even more so when key witnesses have disappeared or died.

You'd like to think that the (currently) second largest economy in the world, would have made efforts to stop this from happening after the previous "escapes" of Avian flue, Swine flu, SARS and the like, not studied one which made the perfect bio weapon, then "accidentally" allowed it to escape and spread globally before reporting it's release.


But couldn't aliens have teleported it here from another Galaxy?
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And SARS, and bird flu and swine flue and... Oh yes, China’s has re-opened their wet markets, so either they're stupid or they know the person eating a raw bat myth isn’t how it started.


Yes MPD, they created it and then unleashed it on their own population to get back at us.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And SARS, and bird flu and swine flue and... Oh yes, China’s has re-opened their wet markets, so either they're stupid or they know the person eating a raw bat myth isn’t how it started.

https://i.imgur.com/vT4v3ZN.jpg

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You’ve no idea how a global bio war works have you?


Neither do you. You just like conspiracy theories especially if they happen to support your xenophobic dogma

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Do you think it just targets the enemy on fatalities? Do you think it’s to kill people or reshuffle economic power?

Explain how you think a global scale bio war would pan out.


Biological warfare is usually intended to act as an area denial agent. It wouldn't be used globally, there really wouldn't be any point.

Still, that goes against your dogma so put on the tinfoil hat and rant away. Ultimately it just makes you look foolish though.

Oh and xenophobic.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 02 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bio war. Genetically targeted to racial types.

Thats not difficult to do but is banned by international treaty and clearly not what is happening here. All.racial types are affected.

It's time you get yourself sectioned again be cause the meds really aren't working.
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