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LazzurusMan
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Spoilt for choice Reply with quote

So, I'm finally getting a payout from a mini deciding I had to give way when on a roundabout, and I'm looking at getting my full licence (once training etc can all happen again) and I have no idea what I want when I pass.

I've been eyeing up three potential bikes.
Gsx750f
Vfr800
Zx6r/zzr600

All can be found in my price range up to 3k, sports touring position which is good for my bad knee and stiff ankle (thank you Mrs mini), and apart from the suzuki, they all look great.
I just can't decide which to consider more than the others.

What are peoples opinions, especially for someone that's been riding 125's for 5 years.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of those, I'd go for the VFR.

There arguments for and against the V-tec which I think is 2002 onwards but that wouldn't put me off. Certainly the earlier ones still had Honda's famed build quality.

The ZZR is rather more dated in my view. I must as this point say I owned the ZZR1100 rather than the 600, but I'm sure the same applies.

GSX750, just no. Not my cup of tea at all. Ugly as sin. Laughing
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LazzurusMan
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine told me they had shit valves?
Could be him talking out of his ass, he's never owned one but he acts like he's owned everything.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR's are superbly reliable if you look out for a few niggles (reg/rec's, oil cooler pipes, OEM collectors are 20+ years old now). Easy enough to deal with as a first big bike, will keep you entertained for a few years. You can hustle them surprisingly well once you're used to them.

I'd look at the pre-VTEC Fi 800's, despite the slightly snatchy throttle response. Or 750's which are bulletproof, parts are less expensive and readily available, not to mention cheaper to buy.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any of the three will blow your mind after a 125. They are three very different bikes though but all highly capable sports tourers. The VFR is a great all-rounder but they are a heavy bus.

Consider adding a CBR6 to your list.

If you are thinking of a ZZR6, go for a later 'E' model. The earlier ones were based on a GPX motor.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider my CBR600F, surprisingly quite sports touring in position, well in your budget and comes with everything you'd ever need on it. I'm just not using it as my commute is so long I take the car.

Oh and it's incredibly good nick for a 06 bike, they don't make them like it anymore. Wants for nothing. I have a Givi top box that goes onto the rack which will go with it too.

06, 26500 miles, £2500. I have all the bits still to put it back to stock if need be. (Exhaust, pillion handles etc)

CBR pics https://imgur.com/a/EbnkKgG
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LazzurusMan
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhun wrote:
Consider my CBR600F, surprisingly quite sports touring in position, well in your budget and comes with everything you'd ever need on it. I'm just not using it as my commute is so long I take the car.

Oh and it's incredibly good nick for a 06 bike, they don't make then like it anymore. Wants for nothing. I have a Givi top box that goes onto the rack which will go with it too.

06, 26500 miles, £2500. I have all the bits still to put it back to stock if need be. (Exhaust, pillion handles etc)

CBR pics https://imgur.com/a/EbnkKgG



If you still have it after the lockdown ends and I can actually do my test I might take you up on that. Looks like it comes with everything I was planning to do with a bike already. Would I be able to fit any kind of hard boxes to the sides?
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rhun
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 18 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

LazzurusMan wrote:
rhun wrote:
Consider my CBR600F, surprisingly quite sports touring in position, well in your budget and comes with everything you'd ever need on it. I'm just not using it as my commute is so long I take the car.

Oh and it's incredibly good nick for a 06 bike, they don't make then like it anymore. Wants for nothing. I have a Givi top box that goes onto the rack which will go with it too.

06, 26500 miles, £2500. I have all the bits still to put it back to stock if need be. (Exhaust, pillion handles etc)

CBR pics https://imgur.com/a/EbnkKgG



If you still have it after the lockdown ends and I can actually do my test I might take you up on that. Looks like it comes with everything I was planning to do with a bike already. Would I be able to fit any kind of hard boxes to the sides?


Hi Givi do a pannier rack for it and also Hepco and Becker. I used my givi top box and a Kriega US20 bag on the pillion seat and it was great for me. Sounds good, I'm in no rush to sell anyway and it's not going to depreciate, trying to keep any attempts to sell away from the masses to avoid dodgy bastards. Give me a shout anyway, I've a couple of folk interested after the lockdown so will see, it's a cracker of a bike to be fair.
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 19 Apr 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would recommend a FZ6 or an FZ8 for some of the reasons I stated below in the litre bike discussion:

Tuberculosis wrote:
Getting a bit late to the party here and I apologise I haven't had time to read everyone's replies so this may have already been covered but I can't recommend the FZ1 Fazer highly enough. Not a sports bike by any stretch of the imagination but it certainly IS SPORTY with 150bhp on tap from the re-tuned R1 engine for better midrange grunt, a max speed of 160mph, 0-60 in 2.7 seconds same as a Lamborghini Aventador will give any sports bike a run for its money if you feel like playing tag, all this in a practical package with a comfortable upright riding position that you can comfortably do long tours on without feeling any aches or pains, nice wide handlebars give you a confidence inspiring control to chuck it through the twisties, although some call it a naked bike I think there's enough fairing on the front to keep you protected on a long tour, the standard screen is tall enough but you can always add a taller touring one (or even a smaller one for a sportier look) at a later date if you desire. It could be a bike you grow into / mature into as like me you get closer and closer to your 40s. I think it's know colloquially as 'the thinking man's R1'. Basically the bike version of the BMW M5 (blistering performance in a practical comfortable package, just get the best of all worlds without any real drawbacks or compromises).

Done a lot of research and the only other bikes that match or exceed the performance, practicality and comfort of the FZ1 Fazer are the Ducati Multistrada 1200 and the KTM Super Adventure 1290 but you won't find one of those for under £5,000 and arguably not as reliable plus spares and accessories are not as readily available or reasonably priced.

I only paid £3,500 for my FZ1 Fazer.

I done a fair bit of looking around and was adamant I wanted a ZZR1400 until I sat on one in a showroom. Despite it being classed as a sports tourer the riding position was way to aggressive for me, could be comfortable doing 100mph plus on a long tour but for every day use not comfortable to practical at all.

Just my two pence for what it's worth x


Obviously the FZ6 and FZ8 just being the little brothers to the FZ1.

I bought an FZS600 (predecessor to the FZ6) as my first bike and was blown away with it. Sporty and practical. Even now I'm convinced I made the right choice and wouldn't change it given the decision again. Only reason I didn't go for an FZ6 was my budget wouldn't allow it as I was worried about dropping it so went for something cheap and cheerful for my first year of riding.

Whatever you decide good luck with it and I wish you happy and safe riding!
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