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So is it going to be a cafe racer, or a scrambler? Two almost exactly opposite styles of bike.
Sit down, look at the bike you have, look at some reference pictures of bikes you like the look of, decide what you want, think about how it's possible within the chassis you have, then make it happen. This will avoid you making a dogs dinner.
Can I beg you before you start to NOT lead with angle grinding the rear subframe and lugs off the frame until you have thought of the structural consequences of doing so. If in doubt, ask someone.
It's easier to work around existing frame fittings than to chop them off then realise they were either structurally necessary or useful. Keep any brackets or captive nuts until you are absolutely sure they are redundant... And even then, if they aren't in the way, just keep them, you might decide you want them at a future date.
There have been some horriffic frame chops posted on here recently that were not only badly done but actively dangerous. Don't be that guy.
Is the footpeg bar missing? If I remember rightly, it bolts to the underside of the engine on a CG125? Is all well with the bolt holes before you start.?
Also consider a cafe racer would often have rearsets so you don't land up looking like a shitting frog when you ride it. Rearsets can be improvised on the likes of a CG125 relatively easily by welding/clamping on footpeg brackets further back then flipping the gearchange to face backwards and modifying a brake lever.
A scrambler would normally have folding footpegs, ridgid ones are a liability. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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https://media1.giphy.com/media/xThtamBDy5xY6UVwNG/200.gif ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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I think the term "cafe racer" has become almost a knee jerk thing. Everybody talks about building a cafe racer (usually seems to mean one of those cheap and nasty seat units on cut down subframe tubes) because...well, because everybody talks about building a cafe racer. One problem. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT A FUCKIN CAFE RACER IS ANYMORE!  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | If it doesn't have clipons bolted to the fork legs below the top yoke so low that your knees are forced to stick out at 90 degrees from the bike it's not a cafe racer. |
Bolt clip-ons to your ears, you vertically challenged random metalwork receptacle
You could bolt the feckin things to the brake callipers and your knees still wouldn't be forced outwards  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Yeah so in the 1950s a Cafe racer was a derogatory term for the guy riding the souped up bike. Their bikes were built to go as fast as effing possible around the North Circular or equivalent local road (the rider often did the mods, so whether they actually made the bike faster or not is a different matter!!). So technically everyone who claims to ride a Cafe Racer should really be saying they ride a Cafe Racer style pastiche bike.
A tuned Hayabusa or S1000RR is closer in ethos to the Cafe racers of the 50s. |
So technically, a cafe racer is a fat bastard with cholesterol levels through the roof, on any bike. So to build a cafe racer, get a taxi to your local McD's as often as you can and stuff your face, et voila, you have built a cafe racer without ever going near a bike  ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I would say a cafe racer, done well and properly, is just a wet dream unless you have a lot of experience or a lot of engineering knowledge or both (e.g. Allen Millyard's SS100, SS180 and SS250 hit the mark on both the aesthetic these guys are after and on the high power-to-weight ratio). If you're starting off with a CG125, an angle grinder and Ebay, you will waste a good bike. If it's a kid who thinks he's smart, and can palm off a structurally compromised, rough-running, unrideable and unsafe hack job to dreamers at a profit, that's not clever. What's clever would be to restore the bike and in the process pick up some knowledge which will come in useful later down the road when you're, say, setting up the suspension on your R8T. |
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Be different. Do a full concorse restoration.
The way things are going, you'll be totally unique, it'll be the only stock-standard CG125 in the country.
There should be a plentiful supply of airboxes, side covers, standard handlebars and front mudguards. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 216 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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