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JulietBell23
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 28 May 2020    Post subject: Yamaha Tricity 125 with driving license code 79(3) Reply with quote

Hi guys!

I am new on the forum.
I have a question for you as I was looking forward to buy a Tricity 125cc (https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/products/scooters/urban-mobility/tricity-125/).

The problem is that I am not sure if I can drive it or if I have to choose the 300 cc because of my driving license.

I took my full car driving license (B) in 2010, in Italy. Converted it in the UK license in 2019 and since then I had the code 79(3) under the section A, so apparently I can drive certain types of (or maybe any) tricycles according to the law.

However, I have found controversial info online on which criteria the 79(3) code covers.
Sometimes it looks like I can drive any kind of tricycle (1), sometimes instead it looks like I can only drive the car type of tricycles and not the motor type of tricycles (2).

(1): "The driving license legislation for three-wheelers (tricycles), irrespective of whether they are car or motorcycle based, changed considerably on 19.01.13. [...] The changes only affect those taking their test after 19.01.13. Those riders/drivers with existing full entitlement to ride/drive category B1 vehicles gained before 19.01.13 will retain that entitlement."

(2): "You can drive/ride a motor tricycle of any power rating if you're over 21 and you have a full car driving licence. If this is not the case you'll need a full category A1 motorbike licence to ride motor tricycles up to a power output of 15 Kilowatts (kW), and a full category A motorbike licence to ride trikes with a power output more than 15 kW."

So my first question is: can I drive all tricycles or only the car type ones?
And also, if I can only drive the car type tricycles, can I drive the Tricity 125 cc 2020 or the 300 cc 2020? I am not sure about the differences between a car tricycle and a motor one, so not sure which kind of tricycle these 2 models are...

Thank you so much in advance, I hope my queries were clear enough!
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PostPosted: 05:11 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a tricky one. Well, just do your CBT? It's a one day training course, not very much to do, then you know you can ride a 125 with no problems.

Even if you are correct, the police might not understand the categories, and having the CBT would just get them off your back.
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kgm
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PostPosted: 06:00 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to here https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

Put your details in and this will give you a list of all categories on your specific license, with an explanation of what I you can drive/ride if you click on the category in question.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can gather, a tricycle is a tricycle, irrespective of if it's some huge thing with a V8 or based on a 125cc scooter.

To be honest though (and this is a recurring theme), I would suggest that even if your licence entitles you to ride the thing, I would look at some training (which you would get an element of from doing your full bike licence). The risks are virtually identical to a three-wheeler like that compared with a "normal" motorcycle, so it's in your interest to learn how to minimise these.
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the CBT route.

Get one and you alleviate a shed load of grief if some pedantic twat of a copper pulls you over. It certainly means you can drive that bike.

Also, unless something has changed (which it might well have), those type of bikes are classed as bikes, not trikes. The front wheels are too close together so you will need a CBT whatever.

Do your CBT and ask the instructors, they should know for certain.
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ThunderGuts
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Also, unless something has changed (which it might well have), those type of bikes are classed as bikes, not trikes. The front wheels are too close together so you will need a CBT whatever.


I get the impression that they're all classed as motorcycles, it's just the grandfather rights of those with pre-2013 licences that have an entitlement to ride tricycles on a car licence.

askthe.police.uk wrote:
The changes only affect those taking their test after 19.01.13. Those riders/drivers with existing full entitlement to ride/drive category B1 vehicles gained before 19.01.13 will retain that entitlement. However, when the holders of such licences exchange them, DVLA will add a new entitlement 'category A (limited to tricycles - restriction code 79)', to their licence.

Riding a tricycle with a car licence
You can drive/ride a motor tricycle of any power rating if you're over 21 and you have a full car driving licence. If this is not the case you'll need a full category A1 motorbike licence to ride motor tricycles up to a power output of 15 Kilowatts (kW), and a full category A motorbike licence to ride trikes with a power output more than 15 kW.

AM tricycles
At age 16 or over, you must pass your CBT, theory test and then a practical test on a motorcycle without a sidecar with an engine capacity up to 50cc. You may then ride two or three wheeled vehicles no more than 50cc and below 4 kW, with a design speed not exceeding 28mph.

A1 motorcycle licence – three-wheelers not exceeding 15 kW
At age 17 or over, you must pass your CBT, theory test and then a practical test on a motorcycle without a sidecar of between 120 and 125cc. You may then ride a motorcycle up to 125cc with a power output up to 11 kW, or a motor tricycle with a power not exceeding 15 kW.

A motorcycle licence – three-wheelers above 15 kW
Test taken on a motorcycle without a sidecar of at least 595cc and an engine power of at least 40 kW; this gives full access to all motorcycles and motor tricycles.

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PostPosted: 10:12 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThunderGuts wrote:
As far as I can gather, a tricycle is a tricycle, irrespective of if it's some huge thing with a V8 or based on a 125cc scooter.


Not quite ... I can't remember the specific dimensions, but if the wheels are too close together it still counts as a scooter not a tricycle, and I'm pretty sure the Tricity 125 is not considered a tricycle - so the OP will need a CBT and L plates

EDIT: beaten to it. Soz.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 29 May 2020    Post subject: Re: Yamaha Tricity 125 with driving license code 79(3) Reply with quote

JulietBell23 wrote:
Hi guys!

I am new on the forum.
I have a question for you as I was looking forward to buy a Tricity 125cc (https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/gb/en/products/scooters/urban-mobility/tricity-125/).

The problem is that I am not sure if I can drive it or if I have to choose the 300 cc because of my driving license.


Telephone DVLA and ask them, they are generally helpful, and if for any readson they can't help, will know who can.

"Licence", by the way. It's actually written on the thing! Smile
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