Honda CB 900 F starting problem

[The Sleeping Fisherman]

Hi all and thank you for reading.
My problem, last year I bought a Honda CB 900 F, all was fine and running sweet until the lock down last march where I was unable to go to work, used the bike a few times, but a lot less than going to work everyday on it, as from March it was starting to play up, little things like the Hiss lock, remove key put back in, it would start, then the bike was not used for about a month and it started first time, got to where i was going OK no probs but when I was about to start the bike to go home no ignition and then there was but it was a very low ignition light, first thought was low batt power due to not riding it much to keep up the charge, turned it off and tried again with the same result, very low ignition lights and low headlight, as I was on a very steep hill I bumped it and it started but was a little disgruntled about doing so and almost popped a wheelie, got back home with no running problems. I then went to start it again to go to shops a few days later to find that it would not start and was getting a loud clicking sound from the starter relay, low power from batt again, got another batt from another bike connected it and bike fired up but batt was to big for the housing so charged original batt for a few hours then put that back on the bike, all looked good bright ignition lights, push starter and get a click from starter relay, checked all fuses none blown, Hiss light flashing away when turned off, turn back on have ignition lights, click, thinking starter relay has gone, replaced with a new one, just to get same resulting click but now, there is no ignition lights, turn off and back on again, no ignition lights, start scratching head and look away then hear the fuel pump start up, ignition lights, same click, leave it switched on no ignition then a few seconds later there they are again power to bike, this go's on until the batt has used it's power so back on charge to find that now the batt is not charging, next thought is a dead sell in batt so get a new one, same result click from new starter relay but now it is a continuous noise from starter relay, this is as far as I have got and am stumped of where to look next, would really love to get bike back on the road again so any help or advice would be grateful, perhaps you have had the same problem with this bike, was also thinking, could it be the Hiss lock not letting me start the bike, this is the first bike I have had with a Hiss lock, but then again it allows power to the bike so maybe not, was also thinking could it be a stuck starter motor?.

[Tankie]

check the earths on the machine are clean and tight
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[jaffa90]

""""" low power from batt again, got another batt from another bike connected it and bike fired up"""""

Have you a voltage / multimeter to check the battery voltage, probing the + & -- and then the + & frame and then + & engine.
Also when switching on, pressing the start button, with engine running?

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[colink98]

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[Bru]

Hi.

If there is just clicking from the starter relay, that normally indicates a flat battery.

I think you should check the charging voltage across the battery, when you get the bike running. Should be ~ 13 - 14,5 V or thereabouts.

I could not work out if your brand new, fully charged battery was also just getting you clicking noises from the starter solenoid.

Lots of dead batteries suggests either a failure of the charging system, or a short has developed in the loom which is draining the battery even when the bike is turned off.

Check all the connections between battery and starter, and regulator/rectifier, and look for signs of overheating, melting, burning or corrosion which may signal a bad or shorted connection.

A method to check for leakage current is set the meter to current (ammeter) mode, and connect the meter between the battery negative and any part of the frame (which connects to the battery negative somewhere). See what you get with no ignition; probably something if the bike has an alarm (HISS?) or immobiliser built in, but others can advise of what value is OK or not OK.

[The Sleeping Fisherman]

[Robby]

Did you charge the new battery, or just bung it in? They normally need a charge before fitting.

Clicking from the starter relay is the classic symptom of a flat battery.

So, if the brand new battery was still giving you a click, charge it and try again.

If the bike now works perfectly, problem solved.
If it works for 20 miles or so and then starts cocking around, the charging system is suspect. Reg/rec would be the usual thing to break.
If it works in a totally intermittent way regardless of the amount of charge in the battery, you have a pain in the arse problem. Likely a loose earth wire.

[jaffa90]

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[The Sleeping Fisherman]

Basically I have had enough of this problem, I get nothing from the multimeter, a big fat 0, reason, i cannot use one, the numbers are just pure latin to me even if i use google i still have no clue what they are saying, doing or meaning, i am at the point of finding a large 15lb sledge hammer and bashing the fuk out it and I don't just mean the meter, what makes it worse is that i trod on my glasses while working on the bike and now they do not sit right on my head .

Right now I am having a coffee and fag just to calm down then I am going to put a game on the PC and shoot shit, multiplayer, get someone to rage quit, then i will be ing.