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PostPosted: 03:21 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: HarborFrieght Lifts : SAFE ? Reply with quote

Are HarborFreight motorcycle lifts safe? Is there a way to ensure the bike will not tip if the lift fails?
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Re: HarborFrieght Lifts : SAFE ? Reply with quote

frankynowell wrote:
Are HarborFreight motorcycle lifts safe? Is there a way to ensure the bike will not tip if the lift fails?

What is harbour freight? A picture of or URL for the lift might be useful.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Re: HarborFrieght Lifts : SAFE ? Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
What is harbour freight?

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-steel-motorcycle-lift-68892.html

If the lift fails then I reckon you're pretty fucked and the bike tipping over will be the least of your worries. Shocked Shocked Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know Harbor Freight don't have the greatest reputation, but in the good 'ol litigeous US of A, surely there must be some minimum safety standard?

Our equivalent is probably Machine Mart, who also sell stuff that's generally considered to be cheap crap, but it does what it says on the tin, so long as you don't expect it to perform like pro standard gear and work for a living.

For the home mechanic it's all good enough.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a generic table sold under numerous guises.

I had one that was very very similar if not identical. It worked fine and had a locking bar that went in to make sure the table didn't drop down if the hydraulics failed. It was stable enough to happily remove the rear wheel on a fazer without worry.

Once it is in the position you want screw down 'legs' take the wight and can be used to ensure it is level. I sold it to a forum member when I stopped using it and he hasn't come back and killed me so I presume it's still OK. Laughing

Yes there are bigger, better and more solid tables on the market as long as you are willing to pay.

CBR400RR on mine a good few years back.

https://i.postimg.cc/QMm0McrK/100-0181.jpg
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I sold it to a forum member when I stopped using it and he hasn't come back and killed me so I presume it's still OK. Laughing


Meanwhile, someone is yet to discover said forum member's body underneath a collapsed table lift . . . Wink

I'm quite tempted by such a device, although not necessarily that particular one - I find it a pain (literally) to have to crawl around on the floor whenever I'm doing stuff to the bike.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Re: HarborFrieght Lifts : SAFE ? Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Riejufixing wrote:
What is harbour freight?

https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lb-steel-motorcycle-lift-68892.html

If the lift fails then I reckon you're pretty fucked and the bike tipping over will be the least of your worries. Shocked Shocked Laughing Laughing

I wonder what would fail? The jack? It's got a bar to feed through some holes in the legs, presumably to avoid weight being permanently taken by the jack. I suppose it could fail on the way up or down though. The vice to clamp the wheel does not look wonderful, and the tie-downs the chap in the video was using look rather lightweight. I might be rather worried about the whole thing tipping over, it might be better bolted to the floor.

Comparing it to a thing called a "Clarke CML3" I notice that the wheel clamp vice on the latter looks much, much better, and that the lowering pedal is protected too, which on the HF one, it isn't.

I have never had a motorbike ramp. Perhaps I will sometime.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just got a bike lift in the last few weeks. I was finding that if crawling around on the floor to refit a wheel or drain the oil was mildly annoying in my youth, it was like being beaten up or a going on a camping weekend for my knees at my current age.

I think I'm worth it and I've saved a fortune through not having to drive to work plus sold an old non running bike to make space for the ramp so had the cash for once.

I have been using a couple of straps on the bike (Versys 1000) before lifting the table, it has never seemed that the whole thing could possibly fall over unless I worked really hard at it, possibly with a rope and a tug of war team helping out. If you use the safety lock then it shouldn't lose height even if the hydraulics went bang.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I sold it to a forum member when I stopped using it and he hasn't come back and killed me so I presume it's still OK. Laughing


I haven't found myself trapped under it yet, and still have all of my fingers. Whacked me shin on it a couple of times though, really should sink it into the floor Smile
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as the machine mart ones. Mine will take a VFR750 which is no shrinking violet.

You need the foot props screwed down and it can rock slightly as the jack takes up the strain so one hand on the bike as you start pumping it up is a good idea. You shoudlhave it tied down anyway.

The front wheel clamp thing is a bit shonky, doesn't get a very good hold. Would be better with an over-centre wheel chock.

You don't leave it up on the jack anyway. As has been said, you put a bar through then lower it onto the bar once in the working position. So it's held up by mechanical means, not the hydraulics on the jack. That's just for lifting it up there.

Are they safe? Hell no. You will REPEATEDLY bark your shins on the lifting lever and the lowering lever safety guard.

I also ran my toe over with one of the metal wheels while wearing slippers. That is not recommended.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

" really should sink it into the floor"

Mine is sunk into the floor. If you do get round to doing this you need extra props for under the platform for when its down, otherwise if you step on one corner it tries to tip up. You also need a filler plate to cover the gap that opens up at the front when you lift the ramp up.

Guess how I know these things......
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZebraDriver wrote:
" really should sink it into the floor"

Mine is sunk into the floor. If you do get round to doing this you need extra props for under the platform for when its down, otherwise if you step on one corner it tries to tip up. You also need a filler plate to cover the gap that opens up at the front when you lift the ramp up.

Guess how I know these things......
I got a scissory shaped lifting type one because I have little enough room in my garage as it is and I didn't want to lose any front and rear space when it lifted or dropped. Setting it into the floor would be brilliant if I could.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did OP just pop his question from the other side of decency and then fuck-off?

Charming.

No wonder they want to disband the police.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


That seems just pointless.Confused

The only stand worth buying is one of those Abba stands (and similar) that allow you to remove the front and rear end. The most irritating jobs that you can imagine doing without such stand. This ''lifting table'' is just pointless as it doesn't allow you to do anything of that above and the rest could be done with the bike standing on its wheels. Sure, with such ''lifting table'' you may sit down while you remove the drain plug or whatever, but is it worth the £££?
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
I know Harbor Freight don't have the greatest reputation, but in the good 'ol litigeous US of A, surely there must be some minimum safety standard?

Our equivalent is probably Machine Mart, who also sell stuff that's generally considered to be cheap crap, but it does what it says on the tin, so long as you don't expect it to perform like pro standard gear and work for a living.

For the home mechanic it's all good enough.


Yup, spot on, cheap and cheerful. I bought an engine hoist from them, which serves the purpose for a hobbyist and a really cheap carry rack for the truck, which has some issues with poor quality paint but has suffered daily contractor abuse for the last two years and is still going strong. Some stuff I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

I have seen the lift that Ste linked to and it looks fairly sturdy. I'd just make sure that there is some way to lock the lift so that you are aren't having to rely on the hydraulics when the contraption is up in the air.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got one of the MM bike lifts, makes life so much easier when working on bike, yes chunky bar through front scissor thing stops it collapsing. glad i got one.

maybe its an age/ache thing?

having bike on lift and a little wheeled stool to sit and move around on is Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


That seems just pointless.Confused

The only stand worth buying is one of those Abba stands (and similar) that allow you to remove the front and rear end. The most irritating jobs that you can imagine doing without such stand. This ''lifting table'' is just pointless as it doesn't allow you to do anything of that above and the rest could be done with the bike standing on its wheels. Sure, with such ''lifting table'' you may sit down while you remove the drain plug or whatever, but is it worth the £££?


Worth every penny. Wish I'd bought one years ago. It moves everything up to eye level so you can see what you're doing properly and don't have to grub about on the floor to work on your bike. You get twice as much done in a day.

I could do my paperwork on the floor of the office or on a clipboard leaning against a wall but it's a fuck of a lot easier on a desk.
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PostPosted: 02:05 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Africans, Asians don't mind working on the ground (dirt) or floor (concrete).
Drives me Capt. Insane-O.
Changing their habit to working on a bench is a work-in-progress.

I Got a bike-lift donkey's ago. The should be part of a bile purchase if one intends to do self-maintenance on the hoowur.

They can take up substantial floor space but one on my bikes lives on it or I store it on its side.
I bolted a couple of legs on to stabilise it when on its side.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harborfreight don't actually trade in the UK anymore. One of their pitfalls was the more you spent - the more the postage was. The normal model in the UK is the inverse - the more you spend eventually postage is free -£60 or £100. Anyway they are no longer around in the British market. I had a tractor seat off them . meh.
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