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Oxonamonkey
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 09 Jul 2020    Post subject: Honda Monkey Z125 2019 Reply with quote

Anyone know the torque setting for the rear shock absorbers. Cannot locate a workshop manual or find the manufacturer details. 10mm studs with 14mm dome nuts. Cheers
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 09 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones on my Honda H100 are listed as 22-29ft/lb.

However with a steel M10 nut and bolt, you are highly unlikely to overtighten it to the point of damage without really giving it some welly with an inappropriately large tool. Good and tight. As tight as you can do it without straining using one hand on a 17mm ring spanner should do the trick. Can't say I've ever used a torque wrench to fit a set of shocks.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 09 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Can't say I've ever used a torque wrench to fit a set of shocks.


That's why you are a bovine proctologist and not an engineer. You do things by feel. Whistle
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 09 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the reply. Well I have a torque wrench so might as well do it right, rather than the it will do approach. I mentioned in another post (because yes i have twatted up today and posted this question in too many places without actually realising) that Honda told me 20NM and a Honda website says 44NM. Just thought someone might actually know. But hey it's a world of that'll do's these days.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 09 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
really giving it some welly with an inappropriately large tool.
Good and tight.
As tight as you can do it without straining using one hand


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PostPosted: 10:03 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxonamonkey wrote:
Thank you for the reply. Well I have a torque wrench so might as well do it right, rather than the it will do approach. I mentioned in another post (because yes i have twatted up today and posted this question in too many places without actually realising) that Honda told me 20NM and a Honda website says 44NM. Just thought someone might actually know. But hey it's a world of that'll do's these days.


It's not a that'll do, one handed tight on a 17mm spanner is right, you just dont have a "click" to tell you it's right Laughing
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Oxonamonkey
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get your point. But you are assuming all hand/arm feel for tight is the same. If you are comparing experienced qualified mechanics feel against DIY feel then you are probably a long way out, I think most professional mechanics would use a torque wrench and if they don't then they are rolling the dice with their company and peoples lives. I did a lot of DIY mechanics as a teenager and know very well what feel is, you learn it from overtightening or undertightening and the shitestorm that follows. At this moment I would prefer to just have the correct setting and use it. Why else would i come to a Bike Chat Forum, might as well just have hand tighted it in the first place. Speaking of professional mistakes, I took my bike to Honda for its first service as you do to maintain warranty and they left the oil filler cap loose! Nice. Obviously he thought tightening by hand the same as a 10 year old girl would do was fine. Professional.
Also, it is a 14mm spanner, not as robust as a 17mm and very likely that a gorilla like me could strip it Wink
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxonamonkey wrote:
.....I think most professional mechanics would use a torque wrench and if they don't then they are rolling the dice with their company and peoples lives.....


Slightly over exaggerated and dramatic don’t you think? Some bolts / nuts I regard as delicate / essential - the sump plug as it’s into a soft and easily stripped crankcase for example, or the axle bolts, fork clamp bolts, Caliper mounts, I could go on. But decent sized steel bolts holding dampers on? If you set to on them with a crack bar then you’d probably strip them, but MOST people don’t go to that degree...
Still, it’s your bike, your time, fair enough
As a PS is your torque wrench recently calibrated?
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here, print this out and stick it on your workshop wall.

The vast majority of Japanese chassis fasteners will be grade 8,8 or equivalent. Disc bolts, cylinder/rocker bolts and calliper bolts may be of higher tensile stuff and need a more specific setting.

https://www.grampianfasteners.com/files/95b2c19b-1d29-4624-abdf-0813df2db3ac/Torque_Settings.pdf
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxonamonkey wrote:
I do not think it is unrealistic to expect professionals you pay to work on your machine to do the job by the book.....

So you're paying the professional for his / her experience, correct? The fact they work on bikes for a living means they probably have tightened up identical bolts before?

For what it's worth I agree (as I think I said) about some requiring torque'ing correctly. But where to stop? I've never ever seen a written down figure for the metal bolts holding on the mudguard on my Monster, a known weak point. The fact they are small and gripping into a delicate crushable plastic component says I don't get the massive ratchet and scaffold pole on it. It uses a small Allen head bolt and needs a small Allen key - so I go easy, as indeed would you I imagine as a reasonably experienced mechanic.
Common sense here?
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you would care to spend less time chomping about people on the Internet and use it to do a bit of research you could learn, as I've just done, that according to the Honda Service Manual for your bike they need to be done to 29N/M.
Happy now?
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you torque up your side panels up when you refit them?
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 10 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

"No wonder the forum's dying".
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would seem the O/P has either found out what he needs and not bothered returning or flounced off.
Was it something I said??
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxonamonkey wrote:
I I saw a biker at the side of a roundabout last year looking at his detached wheel, a onesided swingarm, i stopped to ask if he was ok, he had just picked his bike up from a main dealer after a service, they had not tightened the wheelnuts! I guess if they had torqued them as a matter of course they would remember the click and know they finished the job.


It's a wierd single sided wheel that doesn't have a circlip to prevent the nut from undoing. I even put a cable tie between the two ends of the circlip on my Sprint.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Oxonamonkey wrote:
I I saw a biker at the side of a roundabout last year looking at his detached wheel, a onesided swingarm, i stopped to ask if he was ok, he had just picked his bike up from a main dealer after a service, they had not tightened the wheelnuts! I guess if they had torqued them as a matter of course they would remember the click and know they finished the job.


It's a wierd single sided wheel that doesn't have a circlip to prevent the nut from undoing. I even put a cable tie between the two ends of the circlip on my Sprint.


Do some Hondas not use a four but arrangement Similar to a car? I think that’s how the VFR is or has been designed?
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