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Pabz0804
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: GSR750 Radiator flushing Reply with quote

Hi Guys and Gals,

I'm new to this forum so this being my first post i could do with some advise.

I'm looking to do a coolant change on my 2014 GSR750, at the moment it looks to have Suzuki super long life (blue in colour) but i will be changing it to Silkolene MAG COOL, so in good practice a flush is in order.

Is it ok to use tap water for this or shall i get deionised water from halfords which cost peanuts as i cant find distilled water locally.

I'm just worried that if i don't remove all the tap water it may cause scaling problems etc Thinking

Thanx in advance
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Re: GSR750 Radiator flushing Reply with quote

Pabz0804 wrote:
Is it ok to use tap water for this or shall i get deionised water from halfords which cost peanuts as i cant find distilled water locally.

I'm just worried that if i don't remove all the tap water it may cause scaling problems etc Thinkinge

Do you really need to flush it? Anyway, the amount of lime left after it drains will be infinitesimal. If you're really worried, flush out the system with tap water and then do a final rinse.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 with Riejufixing. You will have unlimited amount of tap water and the added benefit that it will be under pressure. Back flush the radiator bottom to top. The Silkolene MAG COOL will undoubtedly contain a corrosion inhibitor and mineral scale suppressant package that will counteract any of the hard tap water left behind. Like Rieju said, it will be miniscule.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate your advice...
Think I'll go with the tap water option as you both point t out minimal water would be left.

So in flushing do I just run a water hose through the neck till it's clear at the bottom, then run it up the bottom hose, then clean out the expansion tank till no colour... then follow my suzuki procedure on filling and bleeding?
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you're a pert young lady in a white t-shirt I don't think backflushing a radiator in-situ will end well.

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PostPosted: 16:38 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pabz0804 wrote:
So in flushing do I just run a water hose through the neck till it's clear at the bottom, then run it up the bottom hose, then clean out the expansion tank till no colour... then follow my suzuki procedure on filling and bleeding?

Yes. I have even run an automobile engine (at idle) with hose water running through it to flush out the water pump cavity. Don't know how that would work on your bike though Rolling Eyes . As for the surge tank, I would remove it. Take a small container of BBs (for a BB gun approx 1/2 cup), pour into the surge tank and fill half way with water. Shake vigorously to remove any deposits from the recesses in the surge tank. Some people use small nuts/bolts or small stones for that purpose as well. The surge tank will come out squeaky clean. Make sure you get it all out before reassembly.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just drain it and refill with premix. Flushing is only necessary when scale and stuff is likely. That only happens if a vehicle has spent a long time with tap water in it, or absolutely ancient coolant.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 11 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
Just drain it and refill with premix. Flushing is only necessary when scale and stuff is likely. That only happens if a vehicle has spent a long time with tap water in it, or absolutely ancient coolant.


Might as well flush it. Only adds a short time onto the whole process, and gets rid of a lot of crap. Did my GSR last year after I bought it, and it took a fair bit to get the water from “pretty dark” to almost clear.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 12 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue I have with flushing is that I'm never sure that I've got all of the water out, so I could be diluting my new coolant with tap water.

Varies between vehicles. Most cars are terrible for it, where you have a really easy drain plug on the rad, and then another one on the block which is going to be somewhere inaccessible, hidden behind a layer of shit.

Also if you cock up the flushing and make a geyser, you end up squirting coolant over your bike. Coolant is not nice to paint.

It the bike has always had coolant that is within spec (not too old or dilute) then corrosion is going to be minimal and sludge will be non existent. The majority of the crap will come out when the coolant is drained, and by flushing you're trying to chase down an unimportant amount of shit and you may create other problems.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 12 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

And highly tuned race bikes get tap water in them which is drained after every meeting. No fucks given.

I just use tap water to dilute my coolant anyway, very soft water here. I usually recommend people check in the kettle. If it's clean as a whistle, tap water's fine. If it's full of scale, use de-ionised.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 12 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn’t matter too much if you’re left with a bit of water left over in the system. Not like it’s going to dilute the mix enough to bring the freezing temperature up to what we get as a low point in the UK. If it’s a concern, just mix it 55/45 instead of 50/50.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 12 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

By flushing with water you're removing the old coolant so as not to contaminate the new, which might also be of a slightly different chemical composition. If you're worried about subsequent dilution of the new coolant with residual water you can check with a cheap hydrometer (floating balls in a tube) but I think you'd be worrying too much.

I empty a jug of tap water into the radiator to drain, then another flush with deionised water (overkill, but it's cheap, plenty pure enough and I live in a hard water area), then refill. The expansion tank gets a flush too.
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 16 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Shouldn’t matter too much if you’re left with a bit of water left over in the system. Not like it’s going to dilute the mix enough to bring the freezing temperature up to what we get as a low point in the UK. If it’s a concern, just mix it 55/45 instead of 50/50.


Hi Alex, the silkolene antifreeze im putting in is pre mixed but im not to worried about the mixture ratio as you say wont be a huge difference.

When you flushed yours was it a case of just filling the rad filler neck with deionised water and letting it drain out the bottom. I want to make sure i do it right. Thanx
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 17 Jul 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pabz0804 wrote:
xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Shouldn’t matter too much if you’re left with a bit of water left over in the system. Not like it’s going to dilute the mix enough to bring the freezing temperature up to what we get as a low point in the UK. If it’s a concern, just mix it 55/45 instead of 50/50.


Hi Alex, the silkolene antifreeze im putting in is pre mixed but im not to worried about the mixture ratio as you say wont be a huge difference.

When you flushed yours was it a case of just filling the rad filler neck with deionised water and letting it drain out the bottom. I want to make sure i do it right. Thanx


Didn't bother with de-ionised for the flush. Tap water is fine.

If you go by the service manual, you remove the lower hose from the water pump (left side of the bike), drain it out from there, and flush from the rad. Reconnect the hose, and fill up the rad to the top.

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