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bhinso
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 21 Sep 2020    Post subject: Meanwhile in Coventry - Baaklyf Reply with quote
40 - 50 off road bike riders causing mayhem on Sept 15th.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/marauding-bikers-treating-coventry-neighbourhood-18966925

No numberplates = Probably will get away with it.

And if they don't, from the pictures it's sad to see such beautiful looking bikes being seized - and probably crushed.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 21 Sep 2020    Post subject: Re: Meanwhile in Coventry - Baaklyf Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
No numberplates = Probably will get away with it.

And if they don't, from the pictures it's sad to see such beautiful looking bikes being seized - and probably crushed.

Crush them and their bikes. Good riddance. I have seen similar while visiting Bedford. Being in my van, I was tempted, but did not.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 21 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfN8GpU2Po
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 21 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfN8GpU2Po

Thet is a rather effeminate machine. I visited a scrap metal plant, and saw their "Kudunga" machine. They drop in cars and things, whole; it goes "Kudunga! Kudunga!" and the cars, complete - but with fluids drained - are shredded. The whole gigantic thing, which looks like a huge octupus up in the air, with pipes for arms, next to an immense shed, with extractors, filters and other mechanisms, shakes and wobbles as this happens, as does the air, and seemingly the ground, too, and dust and bits of stuff fly about. The bits and pieces go on conveyers to be magnetically sorted as well as by other means. What is not extracted (e.g. copper wire, some alloy) is hand-sorted, and in the giant shed, openings high up along the sides discharge glass, plastic, metals and odds and ends onto the floor, in heaps, where they are scraped up by diggers, some material being put through again in case anything has been missed.

I asked the chap "Don't you have trouble, with really solid bits, like engine parts or chassis members of big vehicles?". He gave me a strange and questioning, pitying look, as if I had gone completely potty. "No", he said. That was that!
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 22 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Riejufixing wrote:
I visited a scrap metal plant, and saw their "Kudunga" machine. They drop in cars and things, whole; it goes "Kudunga! Kudunga!" and the cars, complete - but with fluids drained - are shredded. The whole gigantic thing, which looks like a huge octupus up in the air, with pipes for arms, next to an immense shed, with extractors, filters and other mechanisms, shakes and wobbles as this happens, as does the air, and seemingly the ground, too, and dust and bits of stuff fly about...


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PostPosted: 10:08 - 22 Sep 2020    Post subject: Re: Meanwhile in Coventry - Baaklyf Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
40 - 50 off road bike riders causing mayhem on Sept 15th.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/marauding-bikers-treating-coventry-neighbourhood-18966925

No numberplates = Probably will get away with it.

And if they don't, from the pictures it's sad to see such beautiful looking bikes being seized - and probably crushed.


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PostPosted: 10:12 - 22 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
While not approving of such naughty goings on they seemed a bit stuck for descriptions of inevitable carnage caused by evil acts such as
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At one point on Tuesday, the group reportedly drove the wrong way round a traffic island.

Later on a motorcycle was seen going quite fast on a field Shocked
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 22 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
In a field? I thought they were at Silverstone Confused
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 22 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
The more development there is in any particular place, the less acceptance there is of motorcycling in general. Motorcycle riding is a hobby that depends on country ways and manners. Where are you supposed to ride an enduro, in 21st century Britain? Where can you go, to enjoy it? Never mind an enduro, how about an ordinary road bike on some twisty country roads? The proverbial Street Triple, perhaps? There are cameras going up everywhere, and NSL roads are turning into 50mph roads, and then 40mph ones, and finally the pedestrian crossings come as they turn into 30mph roads and some developer makes a killing on a new build of miniature maisonettes. The places where you can really enjoy your motorcycle here are diminishing to the back woods of Wales, and similar. And, even there, it's contracting. The paradigm of enjoying the acceptance and protection and legitimacy of having a motorcycle as a means of going to work, as a law-abiding member of society, is, probably, illusory at this time. You have to look at the way the wind is blowing.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 23 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bhud wrote:
The more development there is in any particular place, the less acceptance there is of motorcycling in general. Motorcycle riding is a hobby that depends on country ways and manners. Where are you supposed to ride an enduro, in 21st century Britain? Where can you go, to enjoy it? Never mind an enduro, how about an ordinary road bike on some twisty country roads? The proverbial Street Triple, perhaps? There are cameras going up everywhere, and NSL roads are turning into 50mph roads, and then 40mph ones, and finally the pedestrian crossings come as they turn into 30mph roads and some developer makes a killing on a new build of miniature maisonettes. The places where you can really enjoy your motorcycle here are diminishing to the back woods of Wales, and similar. And, even there, it's contracting. The paradigm of enjoying the acceptance and protection and legitimacy of having a motorcycle as a means of going to work, as a law-abiding member of society, is, probably, illusory at this time. You have to look at the way the wind is blowing.


To some extent I would say bikes are unloved or misunderstood but it's a trend on personal vehicles in general. Car parking is, I suspect, intentionally inadequate on a lot of new builds and obviously councils see car drivers as a cash cow with bus lane and parking fines. Then there's the traffic calming measures.

Bit more of an urban thing but two banes of my life working in the city was traffic and parking neither of which affects a bike to the same extent.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 23 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Vehicle unfriendly authorities (government/commercial).

I had occasion to chin someone about small spaces in car parks.

I was informed that it is some incentive to discourage big cars.

🙄

May just have been that person's opinion.

But spaces are far too wee.

And practically non-existent for motorcycles.

All the evidence suggests that society still thinks of motorcyclists as arseholes.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 23 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
To some extent I would say bikes are unloved or misunderstood but it's a trend on personal vehicles in general. Car parking is, I suspect, intentionally inadequate on a lot of new builds and obviously councils see car drivers as a cash cow with bus lane and parking fines. Then there's the traffic calming measures.

Bit more of an urban thing but two banes of my life working in the city was traffic and parking neither of which affects a bike to the same extent.


Yes, there's a trend against private transport. There are all sorts of new policies that are making things difficult for private vehicle users.

Possible adaptations:
1) What these kids are doing - turning the roads into their playground obstacle course. Upside: the bikes can still be used for fun. Downside: illegal and will eventually be stamped out.
2) Buying an electric bike and continuing the same way (for commuting and leisure) as before, just with much shorter rides. Upside: for the moment, no problem with using bus lanes, paying tax, etc. Downside: new taxes will be coming, will be banned from bus and cycle lanes too, very expensive, short range, no soul.
3) Not riding at all. Upside: keep the old bikes. Downside: pointless.

So far, I would say the most likely outcome of all this is option 3.
Many people here haven't ridden since the lockdown started in April.

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PostPosted: 20:10 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Completely take the point that there aren't many places to legally ride enduro's, that happen to be close by etc etc.

But many of those baaklyf vehicles were stolen, so no excuse there.
In short, some beautiful machines, some less beautiful entities controlling them.

Surely they don't have to crush them though, could they not seize them and give them to some unfortunates or something.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:


Surely they don't have to crush them though, could they not seize them and give them to some unfortunates or something.


Usually they are only crushed if the owner was doing something particularly silly, or in the case of stolen machines, the lawful owner can't be found.

There are a few problems with not crushing them:
1. You give the bike to someone else. Baaklaf gang then turn up and nick it back, possibly with a bit of violence thrown in. Remember you're dealing with bottom-feeding scum in the first place.
2. It's one thing to deprive someone of their property in the first place - the law does that all the time. It's another to deprive someone of their property and give it to someone else. Someone will scream about communism.
3. Crushing them does a good job about sending a message. I would hate to see my bike taken off me, crushed, then displayed as a trophy.

These are not irreplaceable, one of a kind vintage machines that must be preserved. They're shitty, poorly maintained, generally fucked crossers ridden by scum.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote
Robby wrote:
bhinso wrote:


Surely they don't have to crush them though, could they not seize them and give them to some unfortunates or something.


Usually they are only crushed if the owner was doing something particularly silly, or in the case of stolen machines, the lawful owner can't be found.

There are a few problems with not crushing them:
1. You give the bike to someone else. Baaklaf gang then turn up and nick it back, possibly with a bit of violence thrown in. Remember you're dealing with bottom-feeding scum in the first place.
2. It's one thing to deprive someone of their property in the first place - the law does that all the time. It's another to deprive someone of their property and give it to someone else. Someone will scream about communism.
3. Crushing them does a good job about sending a message. I would hate to see my bike taken off me, crushed, then displayed as a trophy.

These are not irreplaceable, one of a kind vintage machines that must be preserved. They're shitty, poorly maintained, generally fucked crossers ridden by scum.


Proceeds of Crime Auctions move loads of gear stolen and or otherwise.

I prefer crushing and the Baklafer/ette should have eyes superglued open and forced to watch.

But on the green thing crushing is maybe not best use/end result of the energy/resources used to make the bike.
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