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guile
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: MCE Insurance Being Difficult about Payout Reply with quote

Had a write-off due to theft and they won't refund the remaining months of my insurance premium because they say that's their policy although I cannot see it in my documents anywhere.

Also, when valuing the bike, they say they don't take into account location - I live in London so it's going to be more costly to replace than other areas. They also say it's irrelevant the bike still had a warranty when doing the valuation.

Do I have any ground to contest?
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Evil Hans
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: Re: MCE Insurance Being Difficult about Payout Reply with quote

guile wrote:
Had a write-off due to theft and they won't refund the remaining months of my insurance premium because they say that's their policy although I cannot see it in my documents anywhere.


I believe that's fairly normal, unfortunately.

guile wrote:

Also, when valuing the bike, they say they don't take into account location - I live in London so it's going to be more costly to replace than other areas. They also say it's irrelevant the bike still had a warranty when doing the valuation.


Have you sent them any example local ads showing the value of bikes like yours?

Not sure the warranty makes any difference, tbh.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: Re: MCE Insurance Being Difficult about Payout Reply with quote

guile wrote:
Had a write-off due to theft and they won't refund the remaining months of my insurance premium because they say that's their policy although I cannot see it in my documents anywhere.


Be in the cancellation condition. It will say:
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If any claim has been made in the current period of insurance, you must pay the full annual premium and you will not be entitled to any refund.


Or similar.



guile wrote:
Also, when valuing the bike, they say they don't take into account location - I live in London so it's going to be more costly to replace than other areas. They also say it's irrelevant the bike still had a warranty when doing the valuation.

Do I have any ground to contest?


The idea is that you're receiving a payment that puts you in the position to buy a bike of a similar age condition etc which by virtue means the same value. If the offer they're giving you isn't enough to do that then prove it, send them the for sale ads of bikes that are for sale which are closely aligned to the vital statistics of your old one.

Regarding area - link it to the above and show that there's not a bike within 100 miles of you that fits the bill for the money they're giving you. There is some flexibility for that, but not a lot.
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Robby
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCE are terrible. They did a similar thing to me years ago. Then it got worse.
Apparrently there was an additional £50 discount on the policy as some kind of special offer, with a condition that I would have to pay that back if I cancelled the policy within the first 3 months.

My bike was stolen within the first 3 months of the policy. They paid out, cancelled the rest of the policy with no refund - same as you're seeing. Then about 2 months after that they wrote to me and asked me for the 50 quid, because the policy had been cancelled within the first 3 months. By them.

I refused to pay of course. I think they eventually sold it to debt collectors.

I have had quotes where MCE come out about half the price of others. Still wouldn't go near them.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 24 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a fan of MCE, as with Robby. When they sponsored BSB they suddenly had more business than they could cope with, and as a result their customer service seemed to fall off of a cliff.

That said, neither of the things the OP has reported are beyond the realm of experience with ANY insurer. Whether it's right or wrong is kind of moot, it's just the way it always happens.

Always argue the price. Forget trying to get a refund on your premium. The premium pays for the policy which is what pays out. If you don't pay for the policy, you don't get the payout.
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rpsmith79
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

Forget trying to get a refund on your premium. The premium pays for the policy which is what pays out. If you don't pay for the policy, you don't get the payout.


Indeed, most folk do not realise that by paying for insurance premium monthly, you are not paying for "monthy" insurance, you are simply spreading your insurance premium over 12 montly payments
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCE often come back with (one of) the lowest renewal quotes for me yearly, but I've heard a few horror stories from them that put me off. Oddly their trust pilot rating isn't too bad though.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

You took out an option to 'borrow' money to pay for an insurance premium.
The agreement was to pay back the borrowed cash over the next year.
You have had insurance cover since you purchased the policy.
That money was to buy the cover. (In the event that you met with an 'accident'.)

You met with an accident.
Your policy is now being used to pay damages sustained.

You are owed Zero from 'un-used' policy because you have used it. Wink

It is not Rocket Surgery.
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Evil Hans
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
You took out an option to 'borrow' money to pay for an insurance premium


He may have, but I don't think he explicitly says he was paying monthly - he just said he wanted a refund for the remaining months.
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MCN
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 25 Sep 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:
MCN wrote:
You took out an option to 'borrow' money to pay for an insurance premium


He may have, but I don't think he explicitly says he was paying monthly - he just said he wanted a refund for the remaining months.


/\ This.

So I bought a litre of milk but only need enough for a milky coffee. Would Tesco Refund the unused portion?

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PostPosted: 09:47 - 28 Sep 2020    Post subject: Re: MCE Insurance Being Difficult about Payout Reply with quote

guile wrote:
Had a write-off due to theft and they won't refund the remaining months of my insurance premium because they say that's their policy although I cannot see it in my documents anywhere.


Can you see the bit where it says if you are paid out for a theft the insurance ends?

guile wrote:
Also, when valuing the bike, they say they don't take into account location - I live in London so it's going to be more costly to replace than other areas. They also say it's irrelevant the bike still had a warranty when doing the valuation.


This isn't actually accurate, not wrong as such but not accurate.
Bikes in the South East cost the same as everywhere else but tend to have higher mileage, they'll be in the same condition just higher mileage. The only bikes that are truly more expensive are courier and commuter type bikes because there is a demand for them but this just means you buy in Manchester and have it delivered for £99. The market is pretty self regulating in this respect.

Of course an insurance company doesn't pay out for regional variations, they pay out the average price unless you can convince the assessor that for some reason your bike is worth more than the average which is easy enough to do.

guile wrote:
Do I have any ground to contest?


Possibly but one of the things it depends on is whether it was the ER6 you drove into the front of a car?
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