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Davedup1
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Removing sidecar Reply with quote

Hi all, there's a combo close to me for sale, I'm not interested in the chair but the bike.
Are there any implications with buying and just removing the chair?
Does it need to be re-registered?

Any thoughts?

Thanks
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Combinations aren't usually registered as trikes.

If it's an add-on there might be nothing to do except remove it and sort any wiring or brakes. Look at the rear tyre, it might be square profile so you'd want to change it for a round one as per normal bikes.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Combinations aren't usually registered as trikes.

If it's an add-on there might be nothing to do except remove it and sort any wiring or brakes. Look at the rear tyre, it might be square profile so you'd want to change it for a round one as per normal bikes.


Thanks Pete, wasn't sure if they were registered or taxed differently.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the spannering aspect. Also might need to tell the insurance.

Some combinations aren't all that suitable for riding solo. The more specialised the outfit, the less likely it will make a suitable solo. The better outfits will have huge leading link or hub centre front ends for example. Often the suspension will have been significantly beefed-up so you'll have way too much preload and damping. They are often geared lower than the road bikes too. I would change the tyres regardless of what's fitted, they will have odd wear patterns.

Also worth noting that a bike that's had a bigger sidecar on it for a long time can land up with the frame taking a set and being bananna-shaped
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Just the spannering aspect. Also might need to tell the insurance.

Some combinations aren't all that suitable for riding solo. The more specialised the outfit, the less likely it will make a suitable solo. The better outfits will have huge leading link or hub centre front ends for example. Often the suspension will have been significantly beefed-up so you'll have way too much preload and damping. They are often geared lower than the road bikes too. I would change the tyres regardless of what's fitted, they will have odd wear patterns.

Also worth noting that a bike that's had a bigger sidecar on it for a long time can land up with the frame taking a set and being bananna-shaped


Thanks Stinkwheel, it's a Bullet
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard in the past of sidecars putting the bike out of true due to the constant strain on one side.
I’m sure if you put a big sidecar on a bike that is not up to the job , that might happen.
Or it could just be old wives tales?

It just might be something to bear in mind, possibly, maybe??
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a genuine combination, just unbold it. Don't just throw it away, though. You will be insuring the bike solo I take it, so there are no insurance considerations. Look out for curiously-worn tyres, swinging-arm bearing wear, spoke problems, steering head bearings. That's about it. There are MOT considerations if you have a sidecar attached, but you won't have.

Note: riding an outfit is enormous fun, or damned dangerous for loonies only, depending on your perspective.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right hand turns using the rear brake are especially entertaining.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Right hand turns using the rear brake are especially entertaining.

Wince. The tyre cost.... But yes.Also going along the High Street with the passenger up in the air, and the ease of doing U-turns (so that's another tyre, then...). Smile Pity about getting stuck in traffic though, but great fun. Best "normal" (?) roadgoing vehicle in the ice and snow.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davedup1 wrote:


Thanks Stinkwheel, it's a Bullet


If it's an older one, some of them had sidecar specific forks with extra-long leading axles. These would be a liability on the road. As far as I know, those models had double-sided, half-width drum brakes.

Unlikely to be an issue with the frame, they use the engine as a stressed member and so are pretty ridgid when all bolted up together (and ping apart when not).

I'd be surprised if it isn't geared down significantly because they are a very underpowered bike.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 18 Oct 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Davedup1 wrote:


Thanks Stinkwheel, it's a Bullet


If it's an older one, some of them had sidecar specific forks with extra-long leading axles. These would be a liability on the road. As far as I know, those models had double-sided, half-width drum brakes.

Unlikely to be an issue with the frame, they use the engine as a stressed member and so are pretty ridgid when all bolted up together (and ping apart when not).

I'd be surprised if it isn't geared down significantly because they are a very underpowered bike.



Thanks all, looks like a standard twin leading shoe brake.
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