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Bandito
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: just bought a new bike!!! Reply with quote

you may have seen my threads of recent..
the ones asking for advice on ZX6R colours, and also part ex advice on my Bandit 600...

anyways I gave the bandit a massive clean on Friday night and took it to the shop yesterday for them to look at it and get me a figure for Part Ex...
they were so impressed with its condition they offered me an extra £300 on top of what they offered me when they hadn't seen it... so I got £1600 part ex price on the Bandit.. which I was made up with as I was hoping he might go up to £1500
anyway... I had a sit on the ZX6R and immediately felt really cramped... the riding position was way too extreme for what I would use it for (commuting and long rides out) am 6' and am average build and immediately could feel that my wrists would get alot of grief from the weight on the bars..

anyway.... I have always had two bikes in mind to get.... the ZX6R or the CBR600RR
I had a sit on the CBR and it felt nice... was light, good riding position and I could see the speedo without having to put my chin on the tank...
I looked at a couple of secondhand CBR's they had but had read positive things about the '05 versions, so I gritted my teeth and bought an '05 CBR600RR in black...

I pick it up next Saturday!!!

can't wait!
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, get pictures up as quickly as possible Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one! Black is the nicest colour, simple, plain, understated, but amazingly sexy!!

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PostPosted: 18:39 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black RRs are the way forward Thumbs Up I really want to try the 05 to see how different it is to the old model. I'm gonna try and get a test ride when mine gets serviced.

Well done making the choice - get that run in done ASAP cos it's a pain in the arse. As soon as it's over though its all Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe.... yeah I know.... thats the bit I aint looking forward to..
got any advice on the best way to run it in? just stay in low revs?
What can you tell me about the power commander... I presume you have to buy these extra? what are they for?
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The power commander is an ECU, it will govern the fuel injection, ignition timing and possibly the powervalve. It allows the info going to and from the ECU to be manipulated to optimise fuelling and ignition.

It's probably most usefull for fuel injection; it collects info from sensors which include throttle position, engine revs, crankshaft position, water temp, air temp and air pressure. The more sensors then the more accurate is the descision on how much fuel to inject.

Basically if your going to tune your bike, then this will make life easier, as it is easier to tune bikes using the ECU rather than doing it manually.

https://www.powercommander.com/images/pciiiusb.jpg

Image from www.powercommander.com
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running in you're meant to stay below 6000 rpm for 600 miles. Some people say just ride normally - generally I think it doesn't do any harm to rev it. The worst thing to do is bog the engine down ie don't put it in 6th at 30mph and then stay in that gear all the way to 100mph or whatever.

Power commanders are extra and they allow you to download custom fuel maps. You only really need one of these if you change exhausts, then you go to the PC site and download the right map, or stick the bike on a dyno and have a custom map made. Hope that helps a bit.

edit: looks like tokarev beat me to it Very Happy


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PostPosted: 19:01 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice one... yeah it sounds like something that I will like to get... does it just plug in then? sorry if its a silly question... where does it go?
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check this out: https://www.powercommander.com/maps/install/I117-411.pdf

Fitting instructions are there.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooooohhhhh...... shiny.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

that isn't the actual one.,... just a piccy I found on the net, but its exactly the same.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE!!! Thumbs Up Razz
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people have different arguments about running in for a 4 stroke. They say it should be revved pretty highly out of the crate to seat the rings better, and give a better seal. I'll find the link i found to this, and edit my post later.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Running in you're meant to stay below 6000 rpm for 600 miles.


Well, according to my Honda owner's manual, there are two things that govern the running-in process - 1) No rapid throttle opening, and 2) no starting the bike with a wide open throttle. There is nothing at all to suggest any limitation to the rev range.

In fact, the best thing that you can probably do is to take it onto the motorway and rack up the miles.

As for the Powercommander - I'd personally spend my money on a double bubble screen and steering damper first. Or just a slip-on.

I managed to run-in my RR within less than a week - 'cos I had a track day booked a week after I picked it up!
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling Drooling

Very nice bike my friend, keep sitting on them all the time at work. I quite fancy an all red one myself, one day.....

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be different for Hondas.

In my Suzuki manual it says for running in that I should keep it under 6,000 revs for the first 600 miles, then up too 10,000 until 1000 miles anf then after that up too redline. They say it's important not to let it bog down though like Joe said. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I might go visit my mom who lives 120 miles away... there and back plus some visits to mates whilst down there to show it off might rack up a good 350 miles...
then I need to get it in for a service at 600 miles...
once I have reached 1000 miles then I will feel happier about winding the throttle open..
I guess its ultra important to allow the bike enough time to warm up?
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandito wrote:

I guess its ultra important to allow the bike enough time to warm up?

I'm glad you asked that as I'm confused abouth this issue myself. Contrary to everything I'd heard before, MCN this week had an article in which Castrol said that warming up (idle) was actually bad for the engine Shocked I was surprised I didn't see any comment on it here. What do peeps think? Those that read the article?
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandito wrote:

I guess its ultra important to allow the bike enough time to warm up?


Bomberman wrote:

I'm glad you asked that as I'm confused abouth this issue myself. Contrary to everything I'd heard before, MCN this week had an article in which Castrol said that warming up (idle) was actually bad for the engine ... Those that read the article?


Yes, it's important to let the engine warm up. The MCN article was exactly as you pointed out - apparently idling the engine is bad. The article does recommend a maximum of 2 minutes idling and then taking it easy for 20 minutes on the road...which is kinda bullshit, 'cos my engine temp rises up to the usual operating temperature after a few minutes of riding anyway...and I usually get to my destination in less than 20 minutes...Confused
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread about this a few weeks ago, possibly in the New Bikers section. It seems most people let the bike warm up on the stand, at least untill it will idle without choke.

However, my Dad has recommended riding off straight away and turning off the choke as soon as you're moving, and then keep to low revs for a few miles. The clincher is that in the thread on this forum, Kickstart said the samething. I don't think you're going to damage the bike either way, so I guess it's just personal preference.
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TiN wrote:
In fact, the best thing that you can probably do is to take it onto the motorway and rack up the miles.


I was advised by my Honda dealer not to just rack miles up on the motorway. They said just sitting in top gear for 600 miles is not going to run the bike in properly and it's not just the engine your running in. They said you need to be up and down the rev range and giving it loads of gear changes not just at a constant rpm on one gear for hours.

I asked about running in on the rev counter and they advised me to treat it with mechanical sympathy for the first 600 miles.

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PostPosted: 01:57 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTR SP1 wrote:
I was advised by my Honda dealer not to just rack miles up on the motorway. They said just sitting in top gear for 600 miles is not going to run the bike in properly and it's not just the engine your running in. They said you need to be up and down the rev range and giving it loads of gear changes not just at a constant rpm on one gear for hours.


I guess that it all depends on how you ride. I never suggested that e just sit in top gear...but nor did I make myself clear on what I meant.

From personal experience and riding style, I usually make the most of the rev range and gears in my riding, although I do short-shift whilst in town etc.

But all-in-all, there are always going to be conflicting reports about how to run-in "properly"...c'est la vie.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice mate........................................................

Should've gone for the Kwak tho Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bike man! Thumbs Up

Just a point on the warm up process, don't forget that the temp gauge on most bikes is the coolant temp so the tmep your seeing is water temp and not oil temp cos water will only take a few minutes to warm up although oil takes a good 15 mins to get to proper operating temperature hence the reason they say use good quality oil and make sure you hit the service intervals as the oil will not protect at low temp when it's too old.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

spot on that mate where did u buy it from?
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