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Tuberculosis wrote: | Easy-X wrote: | A typical family car you could rinse 20 years out of easily and 40 wouldn't be outlandish if you can get the parts so nothing is really going to change with regards to petrol sales, forecourts etc. for decades after the ban. |
Rubbish! Sorry, but it is. Between now and 2030 petrol sales will steadily decline as more and more people move over to EVs, and even more so from 2030 when ICE vehicle sales are banned.
I would argue that petrol sales will still be around for some time afterwards (as others have already said pumps will gradually start to be replaced with charging stations) but to argue that petrol supply/demand will not change is absurd. Petrol will remain available for a long time to come unless the sale of petrol is also banned by the government as well as the sale of ICE vehicles. |
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TravisBickle |
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I know I'm usually the dispenser of the nonsensical rantings of a maladjusted lunatic, and I'm already 8 bottle of Whitstable Bay into the evening, but I've re-read my post several times and it all seems to make sense to me  ____________________ 2024 BMW M1000XR
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Shaft |
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steve the grease wrote: | So if they ban fuel powered cars being sold from 2030 that still leaves all the cars sold on Dec 31st 2029 which will have an approximate ten year life span. I see petrol and diesel being sold for a while yet. |
You will always get some somewhere, but it will start to become difficult, in the same way that 5 star was promised to continue and leaded fuel after that.
I still think there will have to be incredibly significant improvements to infrastructure and pricing to make full EVs viable, which we won't achieve in 10 years, but that won't stop successive governments trying to stick to the new deadline.
There needs to be a push forward in a different technology - to me, at this moment, it looks like hydrogen, but that means all the manufacturers need to keep the tooling for ICE's ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Shaft wrote: | There needs to be a push forward in a different technology - to me, at this moment, it looks like hydrogen, but that means all the manufacturers need to keep the tooling for ICE's |
Methane, Natural Gas or the latest, Ammonia. All of which are easy to transport or have exiting infrastructure. Could be used in some form of ICE (but cleaner than petrol) or cleanly in fuel cells. Downside: nowhere near enough production at the moment for any of those... gas probably having the best head start.
And another thing: Boris is intending to ban the sale of ICE cars and vans from 2030... in the UK. ICE cars will continue to be made, sold and used in the rest of the world. (Keep an eye out for a clause banning imports.) Oil refining will continue with or without us.
Europe, Japan and a few other places might follow suit with similar bans but outside of California the rest of America won't, China won't, India won't and those latter two are markets growing exponentially. ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 229 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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