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Weed
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Triumph Daytona 600 Reply with quote

I'm seriously considering buying one of these as my first bike, the other bikes in the running are the CBR600RR, CBR600FS, GSX-600R and the ZX-6R.

I like the other bikes, but to be honest, after seeing the Triumph in the flesh I was blown away by how nice it looks, and sounds. I was impressed by the others, but the Triumph seems to be all I can think about when I'm looking at bikes. Another bonus is that it's British Thumbs Up

Anyone had/got one of these? Obviously looking at '03/'04 models, so any advice or comments would be appreciated. Also, what do they run like restricted if anybody knows??

Thanks, Weedy. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Triumph Daytona 600 Reply with quote

Weed wrote:
Another bonus is that it's British Thumbs Up


Shh, they don't like that kinda talk in these parts! Shifty

Weed wrote:
Also, what do they run like restricted if anybody knows??


It will run like a bag 'o shite unless you use the 'official' restrictor kit which is basically a throttle stop.

I'm not sure FI international even do a restrictor for it, but if they do it won't be as good as the official trumpet one, it will make the bike run *really* rich. Cos its injected! Smile
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

*whispers* Sorry, I didn't know....are we anti-Brit here then!!!!? Wink

Is the official restrictor thingy expensive/easy to fit/easy to remove?
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weed wrote:
Is the official restrictor thingy expensive/easy to fit/easy to remove?


I know its around £30, £33 rings a bell somewhere! Laughing

But I think it is relatively easy to fit, I think it is just a change to the lever on the throttle butterfly arm. Swap it back and you're away! Smile
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i was going to stay with a 600cc/4cyl for my next bike then id probably only replace my zx6r j1 with either a Daytona 600, or better still a speed four! I reckon they would both be great road bikes, and they are much rarer than the CBR/ZX6R/GSXR etc, so that for me has to be a great thing. If you went for the Daytona 650, you wouldnt be losing out to any of the Jap 600's at all on the road!
Certainely i wouldnt go from a j1 zx6, to the 03 or 05 versions, they are too small, and compromised for general road use!

Im a big kawasaki fan, but for the last 3yrs, ive been getting increasing worried that their product range is getting smaller, and they have nothing really new and trick to offer now? Its almost like the ZX6/10R has used up all their bike development funds at the expense of making any other interestingly decent bikes. I almost like the Z1000 but who is going to buy one when it does not look as nice as the Speedtriple or Benelli TNT, and its suspension and handling arnt as good, but yet its not that much cheaper!
Please lets see some radical Kwaks for 2006, and they can start with a TNT beating streetfighter with nothing less than the 1199cc beast between the frame!
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 02 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you looking to get your bike a restrictor or to give your insurer a restriction certificate?
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellant choice of bike Thumbs Up

I was in same position as you last august, looking for first bike and in the 600 sports class. Had it down to gsxr or cbr but when I was in taking the cbr for a test ride the d600 just stood out as so differant in style compared to the jap bikes. Once I had a short test ride on it I was hooked, seemed to handle alot better than the cbr, although the cbr felt like it pulled a little better in the lower/mid rev range.

Some pics of mine :-

https://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/834186/DSCF0042.JPG

https://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/834186/side2.JPG

I cant help you on the restrictor issue although I do recall seeing a kit from triumph in there accessories brochure (actually got it here in front of me according to the price list the restrictor kit is only £29.99 although you will have cost of fitting on top of that), you should get over to https://www.daytona600.org/ theres a couple of folk over there that have them restricted. Do a search there'll be threads on what to look out for when buying one (i.e. usuall stuff like standard can rusts/leaks, ensure all recall work done (replacement of quick release plastic fuel fittings (known to leak/break)).
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are truly gorgeous machines Very Happy
Is the union jack a transfer ttandrew? seen it on a couple of daytonas,but never in a showroom.

How old are you weed? The daytona will be a pain in the arse to insure depsite being restricted (doesnt affect the quote substantially tbh). Im only 21 and a 600 fazer,which is hardly a sports bike, will cost me in the region of 900 tpft!!
Would want to put such a beutiful machine under fully comp imo.
Check it out mate, may be a little crippling if its a really high premium.
Otherwise, great choice Thumbs Up .Best of British and all that Twisted Evil
I love the look of the 'tona, but many do not share our views. And i really cant understand why Shocked .......its amazing.

good luck with it mate, Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies!! Im now gonna try and answer everyone, so bear with me!!

Oni - I will need to give the insurer a restriction certificate, as I will be on the 2 year restricted licence, but tbh, I'd want it restricted anyways. It's gonna be a HUGE jump in power for me, and I dont wanna sling it down the road!!

ttAndrew - Your bike is gorgeous, I really like the Brit flag on the front. Is it a transfer, or part of the paint scheme? Thanks for the link, I'll go check it out!

Kaben - I'm 19, and will have 1yrs NCB *hopefully* when I come round to buying it. I was looking at insurance for a CBR600RR the other day, and that was £900 tpft, so I know I'm looking at roughly £1k Evil or Very Mad Shocked

Does anyone know any cheap-ish insurance companies??

Thanks again! Just looking forward to getting my tests over and done with now!! Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 15:28 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the union jacket is a transfer although it is actually under the lacquer, its a triumph optional extra (£250). You cant just buy the transfer its another cockpit/nose fairing that you get.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon I'll definately have butchers over one of them when I get a large bike. Has a good reputation for build quality. I was looking at an R6 in the showroom yesterday though and it looked f*cking gorgeous, so that might be one worth considering. Not normally into Jap bikes as they all look the sameish but that did rather tickle me Thinking ...
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttandrew: Thanks, I'll look into getting one of those when I get it Thumbs Up I think I've fallen in love with the Triumph Very Happy

I dont know what it is, but I can look at an R6 and really like it, and then I can look at it again, and hate it. Also, R6's are more common than Triumph's!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

All im going to say! Its best to be British
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wouldn't be coming from a Triumph owner would it!?

Everytime I look at the Daytona, I see something else that makes me like it more!! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personaly i think they look better silver with the flag.

id love to have a daytona, either that or the Rocket 3 Razz


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PostPosted: 22:11 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a look at them at the bike show last month, looked really good and stood out as different. Not sure about that yellowy orange colour though.

My cousin in california has a 955i and says its awesome.

But........ and awaiting the wrath of the pro Triumph brigade on here Wink .......... the only bad thing for me was the test in MCN last year when they took three brand spankers, a triumph 600, a CBR6 and some kind of ducati (Dont Undestimate Cost And Terrible Inconvenience as the dishevelled 749 owner at work says!) and thrashed the life out of them round a track for X number of miles. Obviously the CBR came through pretty unscathed and had a slight bend in an exhaust valve, the ducati fared ok, but the Triumph ate itself for breakfast and the mechanics opinion who took it apart was that it had little left to give.

I know that could be an isolated case but that really stuck with me Thinking

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PostPosted: 22:15 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

justed part exed my t595 for an brand spanking daytona 650, still running it in. its less than a week old and had the first service. had a go on the 600rr and an new r6, great bikes but too track focussed, whereas the triumph is a way better road bike ( my opinion anyway ) the bikes a proper head turner. hardly been of it since i got it. mines yellow with the union jack fairing on back order. got say its the best bike i've had so far, not because its new but because it is. try one on demo that will help you make your mind up, grin factor 10 Very Happy Very Happy Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 03 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
the only bad thing for me was the test in MCN last year when they took three brand spankers, a triumph 600, a CBR6 and some kind of ducati


Yes, the Ducati came away unscathed. The Honda had knackered valves but still managed to run OK. The Triumph had a blown engine as it had dropped a valve.

However the Triumph was from a dealer rather than an importer prepared example, and it had also skipped its first service where the valves are adjusted. Too tight clearances = seriously hot valve dropping into engine.

They were a Fireblade, 955 and a 999. Only one that came out mechanically in tact was the Ducati.

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PostPosted: 01:58 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would highly recommend the Daytona 600. I got mine last year as my first bike, it is such an easy bike to ride with really confidence inspiring handling.

It also looks shit hot (mines is silver) and you wont see many of them around which makes it feel even better when you turn up to a bike meet and dont have to check your reg to make sure it's your GSXR600, CBR600RR or ZX6R Laughing

Im 21 and my insurance this year was £536 TPFT. Which aint bad for a supersports bike Very Happy

BTW the first thing you should do is get rid of the standard exhaust, it sounds ok but is a c**t to clean and looks shit.

happy riding mate

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https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=44217
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for the noise of Wishaykillies exhaust....

Last time out I kept slowing for him to pass me so I could hear it howl passed! Shocked Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want buy this months edition of Fast Bikes. It has a review on the 2005 models of the most popular sport 600's and the Triumph is one of them.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:


They were a Fireblade, 955 and a 999. Only one that came out mechanically in tact was the Ducati.


I don't recall anything going wrong with the Blade, it bent the exhaust valves yeah... but at the end of the test the engine was still producing quite a bit more power than what it started with.

The Ducati pissed oil all over the rear-tyre, which as a rider I would be more concerned about Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Overfill it with oil and you will get oil over the back tyre. On a Ducati 999 the crankcase volume is changing by getting on for a litre with every turn of the crank while with a 4 cylinder bike it is staying about constant. This is why if you wheelie them they tend to fill the airbox with oil, as when the oil gets close to the breather (because the front wheel is in the air) it will pump it into the airbox.

The Blade had bent valves. Basically a knackered engine in dire need of a rebuild. Keep on thrashing it and it would probably have emulated the Triumph and dropped a valve after not too long.

Personally having a chance that playing silly buggers can pump out a little oil I would regard as less of a problem that a good chance of sudden and catastrophic engine failure.

Funny how if a Ducati has a problem in a road test they slag off Italian bikes, yet if a Honda has a problem it is forgotten about.

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe because Hondas don't have problems in road tests Wink
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 04 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
Maybe because Hondas don't have problems in road tests Wink


An advert a day and the problems go away Wink .

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