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PostPosted: 20:01 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Whisk(e)y drinking tours Reply with quote

Anybody done one of these?
I'd be interested to know opinions, preferences, suggestions or whatevs, whatevs.

I've started to look at things like Islay and Speyside tours, and am interested in going to either Ireland or Scotland, I don't care which, as I love both countries and am happy to explore them both further.

I'm not a fan of whiskey myself, and don't know much about it, other than that I like a nice whiskey sour from time to time - but am certainly interested to learn, and maybe take the time to tell the difference.

Budget isn't really an issue, although having said that, comfort is more of a requirement than luxury - one is definitely too old to backpack. But obviously if we are going to traipse about a bit in a genteel sort of way (the interesting part for me is the scenery, which in either case is similar to NZ), then I want somewhere nice and comfortable to go back to ... but I am not yet interested in doing old-people tours*.



* not because I am not yet old enough to be designated "old" - but more that I've never really much been one for package tours, although I suppose I could try it.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite being a WHISKY connoisseur I've only ever done one tour which was at the Dalwhinnie distillery . . . And very interesting & informative it proved to be.

I particularly liked the story about the angels share !
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A couple of my friends do these tours regularly and enjoy them, but they like a nip, plus they have beards.

Is a tour of places that make a product that you don't really like the best use of your limited time on this earth? Just askin'.....
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: Whisk(e)y drinking tours Reply with quote

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* not because I am not yet old enough to be designated "old" - but more that I've never really much been one for package tours, although I suppose I could try it.

Old is what you feel, I am told (*Eh? What?!*). The healthy lifestyle is the one, even if you only walk a few miles a day whan you are back packing about. I had a friend who said he was very young, but said that cruises were good, because of the food and entertainment. He went on holiday to Funchal, where all the young ones are well-known to go.

EDIT:I am sorry, I misunderstood your drifts. Ignore that.


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PostPosted: 21:21 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... I don't want to be mean but brewery and distillery tours are more of a blokey thing. Do you have, perchance, some sort of ulterior motive? Wink

At the end of the day it's just a museum tour with booze*

*I've done about 3 or 4
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If budget genuinely isn't an issue, you should get in touch with my mate Guy. He'll take you on a whisky tour in his Jaaag. Or maybe even in his Armstrong Siddley Saphire for the more local ones to him.

He's done it before for folks and he's a big whisky fan too. I reckon you'd like guy. Not sure if you'd know exactly what to make of him but I think you'd like him.

Not a cheap way to do this but certainly a very comfortable one.

Scroll down in the "news" section of his website for pics of the last 5-day whisky tour he took folks on.
https://armstrongsjourneys.com
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Um... I don't want to be mean but brewery and distillery tours are more of a blokey thing. Do you have, perchance, some sort of ulterior motive? Wink

Mean? Laughing Whatever can you mean by "mean" Laughing

I know they are more of a blokey thing, which is why I need to know why they are blokey things.

Let us not forget that motorcycling is deemed to be a blokey thing, and I am not too shabby at that.

Yes of course there is an ulterior motive (the usual).
Without going on about it, I am trying to encourage him to step out of his clearly-frustrating life and do stuff that might be fun (but also to me, because, really, there is a lot of stuff in the world that I can find something to be interested about).
... when everyone is allowed to go about their lives again, obvs.

Easy-X wrote:


I've done about 3 or 4


Come on then, that is exactly what I want to know: individual opinions or experiences of them.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If budget genuinely isn't an issue, you should get in touch with my mate Guy. He'll take you on a whisky tour in his Jaaag. Or maybe even in his Armstrong Siddley Saphire for the more local ones to him.

He's done it before for folks and he's a big whisky fan too. I reckon you'd like guy. Not sure if you'd know exactly what to make of him but I think you'd like him.

Not a cheap way to do this but certainly a very comfortable one.

Scroll down in the "news" section of his website for pics of the last 5-day whisky tour he took folks on.
https://armstrongsjourneys.com


Thank you, that does sound interesting indeed. The Jag could present a problem, as Himself already has one, and might not want to ... sit back and behave himself. Laughing

I've literally only dropped this idea into the mix this afternoon, and his eyes lit up in great interest ... so I am not even sure if we would drive up in his car, or fly up and drive about in something else. I'm currently just exploring "what is up there" so I can come up with interesting suggestions (not that it would take much, I suspect).

But I may well have a look at that, as the Armstrong might be a point of interest.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
A couple of my friends do these tours regularly and enjoy them, but they like a nip, plus they have beards.

Is a tour of places that make a product that you don't really like the best use of your limited time on this earth? Just askin'.....


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PostPosted: 22:52 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Re: Whisk(e)y drinking tours Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
Old is what you feel, I am told (*Eh? What?!*). The healthy lifestyle is the one, even if you only walk a few miles a day whan you are back packing about. I had a friend who said he was very young, but said that cruises were good, because of the food and entertainment. He went on holiday to Funchal, where all the young ones are well-known to go.


Yes you are entirely correct.
Old is indeed what you feel, and for various reasons, I currently do not feel like a woman on the verge of old age.

However, there is a slight age differential. Therefore I need to take into account (for my own sanity) that there are going to be those who are "young at heart" (as worrying a phrase as I have ever heard) and those who are grumbling old geriatrics, neither of which demographic I particularly want to spend extended amounts of time with.

The things I have started to look at do include a modicum of gentle exercise, as just lately I seem to be becoming increasingly energetic with every kilo I drop. Despite all appearances to the contrary, I do quite like the odd bit of fresh air. I'm looking at the distillery things, as well as other genteel adventures preferably in warm places, of which Australia and NZ might be a bit too far (but time will tell).

I'm trying to avoid cruises, despite the fact that I know they are all-inclusive, because both my mother and my mentalist of a sister enjoy cruises, and I can't be seen to be falling into line on that front. I have a reputation as the family apostate to uphold.

But I would, I suppose, if required.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 12 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:17 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a tour of the JD Distillery when in 'Murica.

Smelt funny. Got a bit wobbly afterwards on the green label stuff.

I don't really like whiskey but still enjoyed the day. Scotland would probably be better because less chance of being shot.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like whisky (no 'e' although I haven't fully explored the Irish stuff) a lot; distillery tours in Scotland vary a bit depending on the size of the distillery usually as the bigger outfits will have a more polished and commercialised tour, smaller ones will be more informal. All tend to be enjoyable although a proportion of the tour is explaining how whisky is made and that's the same process across the board so if visiting distillery after distillery that bit could get a bit tiresome.

My wife finds distillery tours interesting, even though she can't stand whisky. The distilleries themselves are usually quite interesting places, especially if they let you into where they keep the full casks (they did this on a Talisker tour on Skye when I went on it in 2006).

I would suggest you get a whisky tasting set (available in various guises but essentially a number of minis of single malts) and take a bit of time to try and understand the styles and their flavour profiles. Islay whiskies are in a different world to Speysides; the former are intensely smoky/peaty and sometimes almost slightly chemical to some (not me, but I've heard the description), Speysides are more gentle and tend to be sweeter (relatively).

Once you've got at least an inkling of an insight into whisky flavours, it might better steer where you go? There are distilleries in virtually every corner of Scotland (although most are north of the central belt) so unless you want to do a lot of driving/travelling around, you might want to focus. The Islands off the west coast (Islay, Mull, Skye etc.) tend to produce smoky/peaty whiskies, the mainland less so.

Enjoy either way, it's a great holiday concept. Try to visit The Whisky Castle in Tomintoul if you get the chance (and you develop a liking for whisky); he has some fantastic whiskies there you will struggle to see anywhere else (lots of independent bottlings) and for not massive money either.
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Without going on about it, I am trying to encourage him to step out of his clearly-frustrating life and do stuff that might be fun (but also to me, because, really, there is a lot of stuff in the world that I can find something to be interested about).


You could just go to Scotland without the pretence of it being to do Whisky tours - obviously feel free to throw a tour or two into the mix whilst you're there, but a road trip around the highlands is good for the soul!

Of course there's no harm in popping into Cadenhead's whist you're up that way (I'll have a bottle too whilst you're there Mr. Green )
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first one I went on was St.Austell brewery when I was a wee lad (18 obs.) If you're interested in things then the process of making beer is some synthesis between very old and very new, beer being the cornerstone of civilisation since the Babylonians. Spirits can be either be steeped in history with the property of various woods for the barrels, the ancient art of cooperage and so on or it might just be some Heath Robinson affair of pipework, depends what's being made.

If you're more interesting in people you'll obviously get the life stories of the founders and key personnel over the years. And little nuggets of info: at one time St.Austell brewery operated a bonded warehouse, they bought rum from the Caribbean and let it sit there for 7 years before it went to the pubs.

You'll more likely get a PR drone at larger breweries/distilleries, i.e. less entertaining, I like the smaller, family-run type affairs.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
You could just go to Scotland without the pretence of it being to do Whisky tours - obviously feel free to throw a tour or two into the mix whilst you're there, but a road trip around the highlands is good for the soul!

This, as far as I'm concerned!

Admittedly I don't like whisky at all (why do all single malts taste like the smell of Izal toilet paper from the 1960's?) but would still be interested in touring a distillery. But I'm not sure of the point of touring lots of them on the same trip - I mean, surely if you've seen one you've pretty much seen them all? The obvious difference being the final product, of course... but wouldn't it be better to buy a multipack of miniatures and have an evening tasting session after you've finished driving for the day?

**Edit: and while I was writing the above, Easy-X comes up with reasons for doing multiple whisky tours Rolling Eyes
Yes, but still....
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite considering myself as not only a whisky connosseur, but probably this world's foremost 'expert' on single malts, I have to say that an organised tour of distillerys is beginning to sound very bad.

An organised tour? What, are you 80yrs old or one of the window lickers?

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PostPosted: 20:36 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo listen to you get out of your box.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:

You could just go to Scotland without the pretence of it being to do Whisky tours - obviously feel free to throw a tour or two into the mix whilst you're there, but a road trip around the highlands is good for the soul!


The question arose of booking a "romantic" Scottish castle over Christmas, but this was overtaken by national events Rolling Eyes

So as the chap seems to enjoy a bit of whisky*, I thought that we might do a little escape and combine several pleasures at once, when its all gone a bit less tits-up virus-wise.

Apparently he's been to a distillery before (can't remember which one), but I've sent him the link to the website of Stinkwheel's chum, so I've planted the seed.

Meantime, I will read all your responses (when I get five minutes to myself Laughing ) and give the matter further thought.


*and the Christmas cigar was also well-received
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry, I forgot. No one here is that much a rider.


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PostPosted: 23:46 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have to say that an organised tour of distillerys is beginning to sound very bad.

An organised tour? What, are you 80yrs old or one of the window lickers


I am, of course, a window licker.
Yes, I have to say that "organised" is always a word I tend to buck shy of, myself.

I shall be perfectly happy if the tour consists of going to visit one distillery and then getting laid in various highland comfort spots. If there are more distilleries, then the question of who is driving where and when will have been resolved before we leave anyway.

By car or by bike, I don't care.

There's just no point in you trying to knock me down, that's been attempted by more vitriolic idiots than yourself. I am currently indefatigable and intend to make the most of this unexpected gust of energy and enthusiasm before it disappears again. Unfortunately (for you), I'm now slowly re-emerging into the fabulous person I left behind many years ago.

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PostPosted: 11:48 - 14 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So as the chap seems to enjoy a bit of whisky*, I thought that we might do a little escape and combine several pleasures at once, when its all gone a bit less tits-up virus-wise.


Hang on can we roll back a bit? Are we still talking about the 'Military type'?? Not that it's important but I like to at least try and keep up with your dalliances Wink
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 14 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a similar vein, but without the 'romantic' overtones I've been compiling some London pub tours I wish to undertake when the war's over. Usually these involve 10 pubs and about 10 miles walking
Fill pockets with pork pies and sandwiches train to the smoke and off you go.

I go with a pal or two - bit lonely otherwise.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 14 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In a similar vein, but without the 'romantic' overtones I've been compiling some London pub tours I wish to undertake when the war's over. Usually these involve 10 pubs and about 10 miles walking
Fill pockets with pork pies and sandwiches train to the smoke and off you go.

I go with a pal or two - bit lonely otherwise.


What's on the list so far? I have a few I can recommend, I love old London pubs.
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c_dug wrote:
A100man wrote:
In a similar vein, but without the 'romantic' overtones I've been compiling some London pub tours I wish to undertake when the war's over. Usually these involve 10 pubs and about 10 miles walking
Fill pockets with pork pies and sandwiches train to the smoke and off you go.

I go with a pal or two - bit lonely otherwise.


What's on the list so far? I have a few I can recommend, I love old London pubs.


I have two tours in plan right now - among some of the 'not yet visiteds' over towards the East End we have the Princess of Prussia, The George Tavern, the Old Kings Head & Eleanor Arms. Avoiding craft-ale, gastro and hipsterised pubs is a priority but increasingly tricky.
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