Scottish Nationalism

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I can't decide if this is a comedy piece that morphs into politics or a political hit piece that masquerades as comedy...

Everyone Loves Scottish Nationalism ... Ooops - Leo Kearse

TBH I don't know how it is north of Hadrian's Wall beyond the odd hints dropped on this forum
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I'm a Scot living in England too but yes, seems fairly accurate. There is a broad level of support for independance but underlying it is a nasty minority, racist against the English.. And in fact, downright intolerant of other Scots who don't agree with their agenda. A bit like the situation in Ireland but nowhere near as severe.

Where I disagree with him is I will say there is also a noticeable amount of low level racism against Scots from the English. I often get a "You're a Scotchman right? So what are you doing working down here?". It's not meant in a nice way. It's meant in a "Why don't you fuck off back where you came from?" way.

I generally tell such people I'm upholding ancient Scots traditions of stealing English Jobs and women. But imagine if someone said: "So you're from Pakistan right? What are you doing working over here?".

There are other things. I actually had someone call me a "Fucking Scotch cunt." the other day. At work. If he thought about it, probably not the right thing to be saying to the person he was relying on to sign off on his farm so he could sell cattle again.
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I would agree with the statement above that underneath all this "go it alone" shite is a basic hatred of the English.

It's not always manifested and rarely stated but it's there. Right form the leadership of the SNP down to the arses that paint their face blue.

Wankerism of the highest order, and the reason i have never supported independence.

That may change but only when the reasons for wanting it change.

That wee Jimmy Krankie twat just wants a statue in Glesga , same as the fat lad that was there before him.
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I also think the SNP are not as well liked as they seem to think they are. A lot of people vote for them because they agree with the idea of an independant Scotland, and/or because they make a glorious mess when they troop into Westminster but without necessarily supporting the policies and aims of the SNP.

There is a huge vacuum in Scottish politics for a centre-right party which has no ties to a mainstream Westminster party. There are a lot of natural Tory voters in the more rural areas of Scotland once you get out of the central belt but the conservatives totally shit the bed for a generation in Scotland with the poll tax.
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I've looked at some of the history of Scotland vs England since I started watching The Last Kingdom. From what I can tell there were/are roughly 4 types of people in Scotland: Scots (as in Irish really) Picts (highlanders, NE Scotland) Islanders and the English. On the latter Northumbria went all the way up to Edinburgh at one time. Unlike England the Vikings never really had much of a presence.

Is there such delineation any longer as TBH if someone said "Scotsman" to me I be wondering "and...?" much the same as Westcountry is a pretty pointless classification from the perspective of anyone in Cornwall.
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Something over 60% of Scotland's exports are to the rest of the UK. The SNP might want to consider that before imposing a hard border between Scotland and England.
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Edward 1st - Hammer of the Scots and pretty much the Kicker of Welsh Arses as well.

The relationships went down hill from then onwards.

However the unification of Scotland and England came about when a SCOTTISH king became the King of England so theoretically I don't see what you skirt wearing, haggis munching, Irn bru drinking, wode wearing heathens are crying about. You took us over.
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I can't picture ppl marching down The Mall chanting "What do want? Scots out! When do we want it? Now!" waving flags of St. George and burning effigies of Robbie Burns but the converse seems highly likely All the talk is of rebuilding the wall to keep the English out not the other way round.

Is that assessment wrong?

I also get the impression the SNP care nothing for the people of Scotland...

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im quite willing to disassociate from people who eat deep fried battered mars bars

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My local chippie (closed due to Covid c*nts) has what they call "The Stav" which is a pitta, filled with kebab meat & chips and topped with slices of burger cheese. I can feel my arteries hardening just talking about it. But they're never heard of a "turbo sausage" which is sausage wrapped in kebab meat, battered and deep fried. I'm sure that one hails from north of the wall (although the name might be different.)
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Despite the “lessons learned” after the EU referendum, and anti-Brexit articles saying the Swiss for example (supposedly almost governed by referenda) were rethinking their enthusiasm for single issue voting* and therefore so should we, there seems to be no call for details with respect to Scottish independence, nor a minimum turnout, nor a majority threshold. (eg. 60%)

If I was a Scot I’d want to know how an already subsidised nation was going to survive and thrive outside of the union, and if the answer was the EU I’d want to know the entry requirements, currency details and more. At the moment, just like the last time, it looks like a vanity project which, if successful, ends with, “Oh shit! Now what?” Queen Nicola would no doubt step down, having reached the objective, and let someone else clean up the mess.

Yes, I’m aware of the irony of a Leave EU voter calling for such specifics but these were the criticisms from Remainers post-referendum, and besides, I was confident the UK could go it alone. Scotland? Not so much.

* Not so. https://www.ft.com/content/7eb3feec-1b8d-4637-b6e1-cf072b379216

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I don't think Scotland should get anything from Westminster until they can show they won't just shovel it into a wasteful independence campaign.
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