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Posted: 03:25 - 15 Jan 2021 Post subject: |
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Since you posted the link - I'm assuming climate change catastrophe is implied in the article - I've been thinking "Green Grifting."
At the moment I'm following Samcrac trying to fix a BMW i8 hybrid car with an overheating issue and at the other end of the spectrum The Skid Factory resurrecting an old Cummings diesel engine: 6 cylinder, 24 valve, mechanical fuel injection... something you'd imagine Noah using to power his boat! The complexity of the BMW vs the simplicity of the Cummings gave me pause to consider: what is the environmental impact of making a car versus driving a car?
Turns out unless you rinse it for 200,000 miles or more you're probably hurting the environment rather than helping:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/sep/23/carbon-footprint-new-car
Here's something I didn't know, what happens to cars that enter government sponsored scrappage schemes? Mostly crushed instead of stripped for parts:
https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/something-old-something-new-how-scrappage-harmed-the-classic-car-community/
What a waste! But of course it's all about the money, in this case propping up the automotive industry. Be responsible! Save the planet! Buy a new car! All the while helping to hasten the end and paying for the privilege ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Easy-X wrote: |
Turns out unless you rinse it for 200,000 miles or more you're probably hurting the environment rather than helping |
What is "hurting the environment"?
Are we supposed to sit in mud huts and never move?
Perspective required.
Let it go, I say. Polarbear is right, it's a simple question of unchecked population growth overwhelming resources. Sooner or later, this planet faces catastrophe. It is unavoidable, and humans will have little to do with it.
Meanwhile, we should accept wars, famines and everything else as part of the human condition. We ARE all going to die, which in my mind is every reason to LIVE first. There's only so much we can do to alleviate the suffering of others anyway. That's not to say we shouldn't do reasonable things to do so, but again, perspective required.
Anyway, Elon Musk's got this ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | What is "hurting the environment"? |
Short answer, money and power. Is saving the planet a multi-billion dollar business? I think it is. Do people question many of these ''go green'' efforts? I don't think they do because that would burst their bubble of innocence and ignorance.
We live in the out of sight out of mind society, just moving our figurative chimney elsewhere until the elsewhere (poor countries) says no more. China recently banned import of plastic waste, for instance.
Also, and I'm just wondering, are wind turbines actually beneficial to the go green effort? What if a field full of wind turbines actually slows down the natural wind flow of that area, making things worse? ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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RhynoCZ wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | What is "hurting the environment"? |
Short answer, money and power. |
What I meant was, what is the definition of "hurting" when it comes to the environment? It is not a static thing, nor has it ever been. Sure, it makes sense to keep our pollution to a minimum, but...oh, what's the use? I'll just be deliberately misinterpreted again anyway ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Once upon a time people thought leaded petrol was the future. Does that answer your question? ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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RhynoCZ wrote: | Once upon a time people thought leaded petrol was the future. Does that answer your question? |
Cow farts. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Islander wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
Cow farts. |
Actually, the methane they emit is generated by the action of bacteria in their rumen and comes from their mouth. |
If I'd been that interested, I'd have looked it up for myself. Or topped myself ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Liquefied Natural Gas is 99.something% Methane. We burn it in our 'clean' power stations and is what comes into our houses.
Harness the cow farts (or burps) and you could be onto a winner. A cow powered house with fresh milk and a meat dinner when it expires. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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I do think biofuels made from waste materials, and utilising the current distribution infrastructure, is a better prospect than electric or hydrogen. Electric still relies on fossil fuels or the UK’s weak solar, plus exotic chemical elements. Wind is better but still not enough. Hydrogen similarly.
Regarding climate change, man-made or not, it’s hard to ignore the fact that in a couple of centuries we’ve released great quantities of carbon which had been naturally sequestered for eons. Whether that’s the cause or not, the globe will equilibrate and nature will too, to the sad detriment of some species and the advantage of others. The Earth has been through many similar changes which weren’t caused by us. But I still see us fretting too late about the impossibility of stopping change when we should be planning how we’re going to cope with the now inevitable circumstances. |
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Also, and I'm just wondering, are wind turbines actually beneficial to the go green effort? What if a field full of wind turbines actually slows down the natural wind flow of that area, making things worse? |
The wind turbines make the wind, didn't you know that? Haven't you noticed how windy it gets when they turn them on full blast? A big waste of electricity, so definitely not green, especially when you also consider the damage glass fibre and carbon fibre mining does to the planet.
I think turning up the global thermostat another 5 degrees would be quite nice, it would make the riding season longer. Why stop at the 2 degrees they're currently aiming for? You'd have thought Greta would be up for that, living in Sweden for four days per week.
If people don't like it, just move house like what migratory birds do but to somewhere colder instead. ____________________
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 121 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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