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Fat_Angry_Scotsman
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 23 Feb 2021    Post subject: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Finally found an available time and date for my Mod 1, its on Wednesday 2nd June at 13:40. Does anyone know if they use the right-hand or left-hand test set-up? Also interested in hearing general tips for the test itself, I have heard that Mod 1 is more difficult than Mod 2 in some ways.

Not gonna lie, arse has started making buttons already.

Going to be spending Sunday afternoons practicing slalom, figure of eight, U-turns and general slow control.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 23 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:


Not gonna lie, arse has started making buttons already.



Pull yourself together man - your're a 'Fat Angry Scotsman' it'll be nay bother.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 23 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What size bike are you taking your test on? If a big bike, the cones and slalom on a 125 didn't really help me. I needed the weight of a big bike to practice on, they tip a lot easier making foot go down. In fact, I kept off my 125 when I was doing A license training so my experience was consistent.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 23 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bike feels like its going to tip, open the throttle. It will stand up again.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 23 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:
Finally found an available time and date for my Mod 1, its on Wednesday 2nd June at 13:40. Does anyone know if they use the right-hand or left-hand test set-up? .


If its like my test centre they change it left/right whenever the mood takes them.
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Fat_Angry_Scotsman
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 24 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Pull yourself together man - your're a 'Fat Angry Scotsman' it'll be nay bother.


You're right mate. Momentary lapse only, the 99.99% of the other time I am a bastion of manliness Cool If I fail, I will have to just do the Scottish thing and malkie the tester Laughing

JustinW wrote:
What size bike are you taking your test on? If a big bike, the cones and slalom on a 125 didn't really help me. I needed the weight of a big bike to practice on, they tip a lot easier making foot go down. In fact, I kept off my 125 when I was doing A license training so my experience was consistent.
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I will be doing it with Bikerite Training from Rutherglen and I think that their full-size bikes are Suzuki SV650's. The thing I am worried about most is the U-turn in case I put a foot down. I think I will be alright on the slalom and figures of eight as apparently you can get away with going about 6 mph on this and the slow control doesn't have to be 3/4 mph (walking pace), a fast walking pace of 5 mph is acceptable?

Since I am practising on a 125 which has absolutely no guts at all, I am just trying to get finesse on the clutch control - I presume that the more powerful 650cc will not need throttle adjustments, probably only clutch control and possibly a little rear brake?
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 24 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:


I think I will be alright on the slalom and figures of eight as apparently you can get away with going about 6 mph on this and the slow control doesn't have to be 3/4 mph (walking pace), a fast walking pace of 5 mph is acceptable?

There is no specified speed for the slalom/figure of eight .. you do that at the speed you are most comfortable with.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 24 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most important thing to get your head around is the upper body stuff; lifesavers (they expect them for all pull-aways and the U turn, plus a check of both mirrors after the emergency stop), looking where you want to go, so in the case of the U turn looking right behind you and maintaining that as you turn (don't glance at the turn itself). Figure of 8 is even more extreme as you need to be looking for the next cone and turn around it as you are completing the first - plenty of videos on youtube on this.

Yes, bike will feel different but you adapt to that bit easily enough - if you're tuned into looking in front of the wheel not at the horizon/where you want to be, that habit won't change with a change of bike and will get you into trouble.

Bikes don't tip over unless they virtually stop - usual reason for foot down on a U turn is too slow a speed (and a "preventative" foot goes down) and/or the gaze shifts to the turn itself, you lose the turn, panic and stop. These things can be practiced on a bicycle, let alone a 125.

Direction of the course; yes it's random. Circumstance can change things sometimes; when I did mine, the HGV training centre had one of their learners flatten the boundary fence the week before so we knew it could only go one way (left) which helped. This is unusual unless you intend on sabotaging the course (not recommended).
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 24 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:
..... I have heard that Mod 1 is more difficult than Mod 2 in some ways.


I got caught out on the braking test first time round. In order to get an impressive stop distance I preempted the brake signal from the tester. Which meant when I went throught the speed trap, I was already braking, hence the speed reading was under the minimum. You need to get past the speed trap sensor (usually inbetween a couple of cones) before braking. Luckily you get a second attempt.

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 24 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
If the bike feels like its going to tip, open the throttle. It will stand up again.


Can't emphasise this enough. Lad in front of me failed on this when I was taking my retest. Practice *this* on your 125, you'll be amazed how quickly it does it.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 25 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:
..... I have heard that Mod 1 is more difficult than Mod 2 in some ways.


If the mod 2 is done around shitehall there's some strange roundabouts and a few other places that might catch you out depending on the route you take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDKvrB2Cx4Y
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 25 Feb 2021    Post subject: Re: MOD 1: Glasgow Shieldhall Centre Reply with quote

Jmoan wrote:
Fat_Angry_Scotsman wrote:
..... I have heard that Mod 1 is more difficult than Mod 2 in some ways.


If the mod 2 is done around shitehall there's some strange roundabouts and a few other places that might catch you out depending on the route you take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDKvrB2Cx4Y


Thanks for that, I am undecided on MOD 2 location, but I was thinking about booking it for the Hamilton Test Centre. I know the area extremely well but there is a load of shite mini-roundabouts in that test area.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 25 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sv will turn in less than 2/3 of the space you have for the u turn. Just practice it using all the space you have and don't look down either. Post 16 sv is great for mod 1 as it chugs nicely at low speed.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 25 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be confident, without trying to impress the examiners .... MOD 1 is a precise art with a precise scoring matrix, there are no "bonus" points for artistic impression.

Practice makes perfect. If you do an hours training beforehand, you tend to make the mistakes you would have done on the test itself, so they are ironed out by the time you get to the test center.

Instructors are good blokes, but they take their responsibility very very seriously. Dress like you're taking it seriously too.
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