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PostPosted: 22:03 - 01 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why does BCF attract so many.... but I shouldn't say that. A rhetorical question.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 01 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
So at the next election I want to vote twice. How do I go about it and get away with it?
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So at the next election I want to vote twice. How do I go about it and get away with it?


Pass the popcorn

Should be good. Election fraud experts to the fore. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So at the next election I want to vote twice. How do I go about it and get away with it?


easy, vote democrat.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Sorry, two and a half hours of American talk radio to make one point, who’s got time for that? Outdated voter registration doesn’t mean someone was actually able to vote.


TBH verified dodgy addresses would have been something you could laugh off as irrelevant errors on a voter database. That someone, somewhere is hurriedly trying to fix their fuck up and, more worryingly, fucking it up again could only imply it's something worth looking into Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I’ve done some research because I genuinely wanted to know, and none of you dopes were prepared to answer my questions or double-check what some random bloke told you on YouTube.

It turns out that the USA has publicly available voter lists which record not only addresses that have registered to vote, but which of those addresses actually turned out too (but not how they voted). So, Louder Crowder would have been able to determine that a vote was made from a false address. I do recall being surprised here in the UK that you can show up at a polling station sans ballot card, give a name and address and you’re able to vote. Lists of who bothered to show up at the polling station are not available though, rightfully.

Also, to perpetrate voter fraud on a scale sufficient to swing an election you’d have to make it widespread, which necessarily becomes way too blatant. A few anomalous votes don’t sway an election.

What I’d still like to know is how you get a fake address on the register in the first place. I’ll let you know if I find out, because we can be sure that chickenstrip, Rebel or Kris ain’t gonna have the answer. Laughing You’re welcome.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It turns out that the USA has publicly available voter lists which record not only addresses that have registered to vote, but which of those addresses actually turned out too (but not how they voted).


So we were right, and you're still having a go?

If you cross reference the votes made, against addresses that USPS don't deliver to, and finally against addresses that didn't have property details then you get a list of thousands. That's the issue.

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you get a list of thousands. That's the issue.

Do you though? In the same locality to make a difference?
Did somebody just tell you this? Laughing

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to perpetrate voter fraud on a scale sufficient to swing an election you’d have to make it widespread, which necessarily becomes way too blatant.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Also, to perpetrate voter fraud on a scale sufficient to swing an election you’d have to make it widespread, which necessarily becomes way too blatant.


Which is why afterwards you have to cover it up, shut down the conversation, insult the accusers, carry out distractions such as fake impeachments when you even admit yourselves you're not going to win them. This won't go away until all the evidence that is claimed to exist is properly examined in a court case, probably at the Supreme Court. No court case, with proper cross-examination, in the public eye, with no spin, no omissions, then no end to the dispute. Simple as that.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:


Also, to perpetrate voter fraud on a scale sufficient to swing an election you’d have to make it widespread, which necessarily becomes way too blatant.


Which is why afterwards you have to cover it up, shut down the conversation, insult the accusers, carry out distractions such as fake impeachments when you even admit yourselves you're not going to win them. This won't go away until all the evidence that is claimed to exist is properly examined in a court case, probably at the Supreme Court. No court case, with proper cross-examination, in the public eye, with no spin, no omissions, then no end to the dispute. Simple as that.


The problem is that there's no real evidence for any of that. Unless you're following the Trump claims of course - but then he works on the principle that if you shout it often enough and over the top of opposing arguments then it must be true even though it isn't.
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This won't go away until all the evidence that is claimed to exist is properly examined in a court case, probably at the Supreme Court. No court case...

Haven’t they been through the lower courts though? I think you only get to the Supreme Court if you can make a case that an injustice or misunderstanding was done in previous court hearings, or maybe that there is new evidence. You can’t just keep escalating it in the hope that you’ll get your way eventually based upon the same “evidence.”
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 02 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Guilliani, a very experienced lawyer (maybe even slightly more experienced than you, Islander Laughing ) claims he has plenty of evidence. Why should I believe you over him? Unlike Biden, he doesn't appear to be losing his cognitive powers.

So let him take it through the Supreme Court. Why not? Wasting time? There are penalties for that if found to be so. Let him pay them if that's the case. Let him make a fool of himself if it comes to that. Settle this once and for all. Why wouldn't you? Nobody has a good reason not to, certainly not if you can have an impeachment process that ties up the Senate, when you know you won't win it. Why not? Is it better for millions to go on thinking the election was a fix? How?

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At this stage, I'd say it's in the public interest. Highest court in the land, get it settled once and for all. What bigger question could there be?
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Don't forget that even if you do the above research, and go and video the empty locations and/or empty intersections that apparently 'voters' were registered at - then report on it, you still get a ban from social media. Laughable.
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At this stage, I'd say it's in the public interest. Highest court in the land, get it settled once and for all. What bigger question could there be?

Maybe, but do you really think that would settle it for the Disciples of Trump?
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Guilliani, a very experienced lawyer (maybe even slightly more experienced than you, Islander Laughing ) claims he has plenty of evidence. Why should I believe you over him? Unlike Biden, he doesn't appear to be losing his cognitive powers.

So let him take it through the Supreme Court. Why not? Wasting time? There are penalties for that if found to be so. Let him pay them if that's the case. Let him make a fool of himself if it comes to that. Settle this once and for all. Why wouldn't you? Nobody has a good reason not to, certainly not if you can have an impeachment process that ties up the Senate, when you know you won't win it. Why not? Is it better for millions to go on thinking the election was a fix? How?

@Jimbo:
At this stage, I'd say it's in the public interest. Highest court in the land, get it settled once and for all. What bigger question could there be?


Giulliani is subject to a disciplinary hearing and in danger of being debarred by the NY state bar association. He's damaged goods and has lost credibility - he also used the Trump keep shouting it and it'll be true even when it isn't method.

All of this desperation is hilarious by the way Laughing
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chickenstrip wrote:
@Jimbo:
At this stage, I'd say it's in the public interest. Highest court in the land, get it settled once and for all. What bigger question could there be?

Maybe, but do you really think that would settle it for the Disciples of Trump?


Absolutely not. They'll just claim it's a conspiracy. A bigly one. It's not fair we wanted to win and we didn't and it's fake news and if you don't let us win we'll scweam and scweam and scweam until we're thick we will too. Laughing
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chickenstrip wrote:
@Jimbo:
At this stage, I'd say it's in the public interest. Highest court in the land, get it settled once and for all. What bigger question could there be?

Maybe, but do you really think that would settle it for the Disciples of Trump?


Who are "The Disciples of Trump"? I haven't heard about them. How many of them are there? Are we to believe that the election was won by "The Disciples of Biden"? "The Disciples of Anti-Trump"? Are there 80 million "Disciples" on one side, and 74 million on the other? Is that really how you see it?

Why not have the court case?
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Absolutely not. They'll just claim it's a conspiracy. A bigly one. It's not fair we wanted to win and we didn't and it's fake news and if you don't let us win we'll scweam and scweam and scweam until we're thick we will too. Laughing


You mean exactly what the Dems did for 4 years after Trump's election? You lefties really ought to stop projecting your insanity onto everyone else Laughing
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Absolutely not. They'll just claim it's a conspiracy. A bigly one. It's not fair we wanted to win and we didn't and it's fake news and if you don't let us win we'll scweam and scweam and scweam until we're thick we will too. Laughing


Huh? What's this? The 2016 election or the 2020 one? It's Deja Vu all over again...
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Giulliani is subject to a disciplinary hearing and in danger of being debarred by the NY state bar association. He's damaged goods and has lost credibility - he also used the Trump keep shouting it and it'll be true even when it isn't method.


Then let someone else present the evidence he has. It isn't about the personalities, it's about public perception. And he still has more credibility than you Wink
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Absolutely not. They'll just claim it's a conspiracy. A bigly one. It's not fair we wanted to win and we didn't and it's fake news and if you don't let us win we'll scweam and scweam and scweam until we're thick we will too. Laughing


You mean exactly what the Dems did for 4 years after Trump's election? You lefties really ought to stop projecting your insanity onto everyone else Laughing


Assumptions again? Who said my politics are left wing? Do you know what my politics actually are? Who I vote for?

Oh and the left made a lot less of a fuss when an election was won fair and square - they certainly didn't try to derail the democratic process. In the case of the US Trump win the handover was gracious and smooth. No petulance, no cries of not fair, no cries of election fraud.

Like I said, the desperation is hilarious. Laughing
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Tut Tut Wrong. Try again, or you'll have to stay behind after school Laughing
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Giulliani is subject to a disciplinary hearing and in danger of being debarred by the NY state bar association. He's damaged goods and has lost credibility - he also used the Trump keep shouting it and it'll be true even when it isn't method.


Then let someone else present the evidence he has. It isn't about the personalities, it's about public perception. And he still has more credibility than you Wink


The thing is, he's had plenty of opportunity to present evidence and he just hasn't. It's all baseless claims - shout over the opposition and hope it'll become true even when it isn't. Laughing

Even Britabroad had more credibility than Giuliiani. Razz
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Who are "The Disciples of Trump"? I haven't heard about them.

They’ve even got a golden false idol. Laughing

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/02/donald-trump-statue-cpac-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1

Or it could be Bart Simpson on a skateboard.

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Why not have the court case?

Yeah, forget the rules and his ineffectual legal team, just let him have a podium at the highest court in the land because... bless!
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