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A lot of cars with cruise control also have limiters as part of the same system already. They are pretty handy in
the miles and miles of unattended road'works' with 50mph limits enforced by average speed cameras. It's very easy
to creep over 50 when you've been strumming along at 70+ for a number of miles. It's when they are controlled by
GPS and not a button on the dash that you need to worry. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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I read the article as more of a "speed assistant" than "speed limiter" but the former wouldn't make for a good headline. In which case it's not a system that would work well on bikes beyond something like a Goldwing.
It's not GPS linked on my mum's Skoda but she bought the top-end fabia with all the bells and whistles and frankly all the "assistance" is very distracting. Brake too hard? Car has a moan. Go too fast? Car has a moan. Fart too loud? Car tells you to turn of the air-con recycle...
<addendum> not mentioned in most articles (or only in passing) data loggers
Let that sink in.
Okay so you may already volunteer into such a system if you use Google Maps but apparently these black boxes will be mandatory:
BBC News wrote: | Under the new rules, cars will also be fitted with compulsory data recorders, or "black boxes".
So if you have an accident, the police and your insurance company will know whether you've been going too fast. If you've been keeping your foot down and routinely ignoring the car's warnings, they may take a very dim view of your actions.
In fact, it's this "spy on board" which may ultimately have a bigger impact on driver behaviour than any kind of speed limiter. It's easy to get away with reckless driving when there's only a handful of traffic cops around to stop you. Much harder when there's a spy in the cab recording your every move. |
So you have a "speed assistant" that you could ignore or turn off but an "always on" black box that'll dob you in at the earliest opportunity. Yes, that makes perfect sense ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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North America has had speed limiters for years on light trucks, though semis (HGVs) are not limited for some reason.
Limited to 100mph from the factory, my 2012 Ram 1500 which is around 450bhp is limited but its quite straight forward to re-flash the computer to remove the limit with a tool off ebay/amazon. Will probably be the same for limits on cars etc. ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650 Present:G650XC,C12,KZ750,1190ADV |
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Soooo, this again?
https://www.rd350lc.net/Speedometer%2029L.jpg ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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There's a balance to be had, as in all things. If I watch Star Wars (the pre-ruined ones) I just marvel that "a long time ago in a galaxy far away..." that Health & Safety wasn't a thing No hand rails, no safety cut out switches and don't even get me started on how dangerous light sabres are to the user!
Angle grinders come with guards, there's no law that stops you from taking it off... guns don't kill ppl, ppl kill ppl... you could go on forever with this but it boils down to: we don't trust the lowest common denominator in society with [arbitrary thing] therefore it's hair shirts for all! The collectivisation of responsibility, if you will ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Easy-X wrote: | There are already penalties to driving/riding like a dick: higher insurance costs, fines, points and a possible prison sentence. Are you proposing that because this net doesn't catch 100% of the miscreants that ordinary, law abiding persons must have restrictions on their liberties?
I'm just arguing on the principle of individual responsibility vs collectivist restrictions. |
The problem is that some people don't think about the consequences uintil its too late. In that case the penalty isn't effective. Riders are not a problem, drivers are. Riders kill themselves, drivers kill other people, thats the difference. We know who does the killing so why not just target them? |
Aha! So you're saying "screw the cagers, I'm alright" fair enough And you may be correct, bikes will (hopefully) continue to be overlooked much the same as them phasing in zero emissions cars and vans in the 2030's but with the government going as far as saying "we've not thought about bikes, we might get back to you later" no rush! Actually, if one wants to be very optimistic about 2 wheeled life...
Imagine all the cars have speed "assistants" (let's not call them limiters) and black-box dataloggers as mandatory equipment on all new cars. Everyone's driving nice and safe like good little minions. What will happen?
No more speed camera revenue! A chunk of that revenue goes to maintaining the cameras or keeping the goon in the speed check van topped up with Fanta & Wotsits. No revenue = no cameras.
And the rest as they say writes itself ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 265 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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