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PostPosted: 04:52 - 04 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I for one, won't be eating any food products from the states. I don't know what else is made in the states.


I think the biggest export from the US has always been culture, but they're busy destroying that now. Everything else has now been copied to death elsewhere, so I don't think we'll lose much in that sense. I have an American-made guitar...I think that's it. I don't think any food or clothes or other essentials I buy come from the US, not that I can think of. Oh, tech stuff, but I'm not big on tech anyway, and the US tech companies I think will find themselves also being made redundant by others doing similar, and not having to swallow the daft politics the US companies have adopted. We're connecting up to many other markets now, so we'll always find some alternative.


What the UK wants from the US: Californian wine, Jim Beam, Jack Daniels - bit of a theme there... Laughing

What the US would like to sell the UK: Skank foodstuffs and overpriced pharmaceuticals.

What the US wants: Americans aren't fussy just so long as whatever you sell them is overpriced cheap tat and has 'Ye genuine Olde worlde UK, fabrique en Chine' stamped on it. They'd also like to get their hands on the NHS and make you pay 600 quid a month as a monthly premium that entitles you to pay 20 quid every time you want to see a practitioner nurse or 1000 quid, starting price, if you want to go to A&E.

So, likelihood of a deal anytime soon, has hell started to freeze over? (Come to think of it, Florida was about 4C this morning... Laughing )
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
VDL says the UK is a speedboat compared to the EU tanker. She forgot to mention how leaky that tanker is though Laughing

Also hearing something about the EU taking 24 of its member states to court, over telecoms or something. How I miss us being a member state! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
mentalboy wrote:
What the UK wants from the US: Californian wine, Jim Beam, Jack Daniels - bit of a theme there... Laughing

What the US would like to sell the UK: Skank foodstuffs and overpriced pharmaceuticals.

What the US wants: Americans aren't fussy just so long as whatever you sell them is overpriced cheap tat and has 'Ye genuine Olde worlde UK, fabrique en Chine' stamped on it. They'd also like to get their hands on the NHS and make you pay 600 quid a month as a monthly premium that entitles you to pay 20 quid every time you want to see a practitioner nurse or 1000 quid, starting price, if you want to go to A&E.

So, likelihood of a deal anytime soon, has hell started to freeze over? (Come to think of it, Florida was about 4C this morning... Laughing )

That's not right at all, though, is it. However, trade has risen quite a lot in the last 10 years.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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VDL says the UK is a speedboat compared to the EU tanker. She forgot to mention how leaky that tanker is though Laughing

Also hearing something about the EU taking 24 of its member states to court, over telecoms or something. How I miss us being a member state! Laughing


They go fast but they also crash somewhat spectacularly Shocked Although the image of a Union Jack emblazoned speedboat tearing up and down The Channel mowing down French fishermen to the left and asylum seekers to the right has a certain perverse appeal Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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They'd also like to get their hands on the NHS and make you pay 600 quid a month as a monthly premium that entitles you to pay 20 quid every time you want to see a practitioner nurse or 1000 quid, starting price, if you want to go to A&E.

Privatised NHS services are still free at point of use.

Why do people always seem to think that privatising NHS services would mean the NHS turns into a private healthcare system? Confused
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 05 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
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VDL says the UK is a speedboat compared to the EU tanker. She forgot to mention how leaky that tanker is though Laughing

Also hearing something about the EU taking 24 of its member states to court, over telecoms or something. How I miss us being a member state! Laughing


They go fast but they also crash somewhat spectacularly Shocked


With that attitude, I suggest you quit riding bikes Laughing

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Although the image of a Union Jack emblazoned torpedoboat tearing up and down The Channel blasting out of the water French fishermen to the left and asylum seekers to the right has a certain perverse appeal Twisted Evil


FTFY.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 06 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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They'd also like to get their hands on the NHS and make you pay 600 quid a month as a monthly premium that entitles you to pay 20 quid every time you want to see a practitioner nurse or 1000 quid, starting price, if you want to go to A&E.

Privatised NHS services are still free at point of use.

Why do people always seem to think that privatising NHS services would mean the NHS turns into a private healthcare system? Confused


My post was tongue in cheek. The reality would be that patients receive sub-standard care for the barest minimum of time that the company can get away with. US healthcare providers are not interested in providing healthcare, their primary goal is to make as much money as they can for as little work that they have to do.
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 09 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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US healthcare providers are not interested in providing healthcare, their primary goal is to make as much money as they can for as little work that they have to do.


Is that true though, surely the health care professionals must care.

I have limited experience of the US, though I have relatives in Connecticut and New York, but through my work I have private health care and when I've had to use it, it was fantastic, I saw my GP, the next day I saw the specialist, we both agreed a surgery date to suit ourselves.

The healthcare all private for my last lab, who died of epilepsy just over 14 months ago, was truly fantastic. Sure the surgery needs to make a profit, but boy did they care.
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"EU to seek more time to ratify Brexit trade deal amid tensions with UK"

Very interesting. They want another couple of months. The current position is that the eu commission has OK'd it without asking the "eu parliament", which will get its turn soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/09/eu-to-seek-more-time-to-ratify-brexit-trade-deal-amid-tensions-with-uk

The eu parliament would not dare boot it out - would they? Plus of course the agreement can't easily be changed.

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Either the EU Commission’s rash decision to invoke Article 16 has put the wind up the now enlightened EU Parliament, or European importers have pointed out that glib celebration of the problems faced by UK exporters post-Brexit does them no favours.

There was an EU chap on the radio this morning saying that UK shellfish hadn’t suddenly come from toxic waters but that’s how it’s being treated. Stupid.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 10 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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US healthcare providers are not interested in providing healthcare, their primary goal is to make as much money as they can for as little work that they have to do.


Is that true though, surely the health care professionals must care.

I have limited experience of the US, though I have relatives in Connecticut and New York, but through my work I have private health care and when I've had to use it, it was fantastic, I saw my GP, the next day I saw the specialist, we both agreed a surgery date to suit ourselves.

The healthcare all private for my last lab, who died of epilepsy just over 14 months ago, was truly fantastic. Sure the surgery needs to make a profit, but boy did they care.


I don't pay heathcare professionals - except for my dentist because my insurance doesn't cover dental, or my optician, or my chiropractor, or my acupuncturist etc, and then I pay about $350 per visit to the doctors (until my deductible of $10,000 annually is met) who see me if I go to the hospital because the hospital doesn't bill for them and my insurance doesn't accept multiple bills for hospital visits, oh and because of that I also stump up for the radiographers service, despite the fact that the hospital bills for use of x-ray and MRI machines, just not the operators.!!!
Anyhow, back to not paying the professionals Rolling Eyes , I pay an insurance company, the people who work in healthcare are great - I've only ever met one who wasn't, an NHS dentist who must have been a butcher back in his native Hungary, he thought I was going to clock him, bloody idiot, my mouth bled for week after he decided to do the hygenist's job and clean my teeth.

I digress, my insurance company decides which professionals I can and can't see, if I visit a GP that isn't in their 'network' of GP's then I pay for it (by pay for it, I mean much, much more than the $30 that I have to stump up every time I visit my quack, who I've never actually seen, Nurse Practitioners deal with anything that a normal NHS GP would, not sure how ill I'd have to be to get to see the GP Confused ).
Until this year I was only covered by approved providers in Florida, go out of state and I'd pay full price for any service, now I'm covered out of state but it still has to be with professionals within my insurance's 'network'.
Private healthcare is great IF you can find an employer who provides healthcare insurance as part of your employment package. I'm covered through my wife's school board insurance, when she retires from teaching in Florida this summer then her coverage will cease, as will mine. Unless she gets a job in South Carolina that provides insurance then the likelihood is that she and I will not be able to afford insurance from June 2021. Like many others who earn under $100k a year, I earn too much to qualify for the US equivalent of free healthcare but not enough to afford insurance... Sad
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 10 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Either the EU Commission’s rash decision to invoke Article 16 has put the wind up the now enlightened EU Parliament, or European importers have pointed out that glib celebration of the problems faced by UK exporters post-Brexit does them no favours.

There was an EU chap on the radio this morning saying that UK shellfish hadn’t suddenly come from toxic waters but that’s how it’s being treated. Stupid.


BBC Radio Kent reporting today that EU branches of M&S, Morrisons and some other UK based supermarkets are in proper trouble, some of them having to close because they have significant stock deficiencies.

Seems like the EU side didn't know how to do the import paperwork, so while Dover are saying HGV traffic is nearly at normal levels, up to 70% of lorries are going back empty.

The takeaway was that UK to EU traffic was an issue, vice versa not so much.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 10 Feb 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:

There was an EU chap on the radio this morning saying that UK shellfish hadn’t suddenly come from toxic waters but that’s how it’s being treated. Stupid.


Sounds a lot like toys thrown out of the pram to me.

We had 4 years to agree any loopholes or concessions to ensure UK shellfish isn't treated as toxic, but thanks to constant inaction and ineptitude, we are where we are.
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Lord Percy wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:

There was an EU chap on the radio this morning saying that UK shellfish hadn’t suddenly come from toxic waters but that’s how it’s being treated. Stupid.


Sounds a lot like toys thrown out of the pram to me.

We had 4 years to agree any loopholes or concessions to ensure UK shellfish isn't treated as toxic, but thanks to constant inaction and ineptitude, we are where we are.


How many people affected know the names of the UK reps in bruxells?
And those reps seem to know that no one knows who they are so celebrate that anonymity by doing Hee-Haw to represent UK interests.
I believe a lot of Euro MPs are those who can't hold a seat in the U.K. parliament so get farmed off to Europe.
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I believe a lot of Euro MPs are those who can't hold a seat in the U.K. parliament so get farmed off to Europe.


It sounds like you don't know we don't have any MEPs anymore. Rolling Eyes
Though if you are still in Timbuktu or wherever that's a half decent excuse.
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I didn’t expect Brexit to ruin the night sky. Laughing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57299121
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I didn’t expect Brexit to ruin the night sky. Laughing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57299121


Where was building control while all this was going on?

Presumably stood with one thumb up their arse and the other in their mouth like when they were supervising people fitting flammable cladding to skyscrapers?

Yet if I fit the wrong colour of fucking chimney pot to my ex-council house, they come down on me like a ton of rectangular buildy-things.
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Surely a task for the tree-huggers and eco-warriors to tackle: light pollution and energy wastage!

Strange that these people are decidedly absent when something tangibly good could be done. Almost if they were just political puppets...
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 31 May 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I didn’t expect Brexit to ruin the night sky. Laughing

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57299121


Have you ever been to Ashford, even Adolf Hitler would struggle to make it more of a shithole? Laughing
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doggone wrote:
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I believe a lot of Euro MPs are those who can't hold a seat in the U.K. parliament so get farmed off to Europe.


It sounds like you don't know we don't have any MEPs anymore. Rolling Eyes
Though if you are still in Timbuktu or wherever that's a half decent excuse.


No s4it S4erlock. Laughing
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