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Posted: 04:35 - 30 Nov 2021 Post subject: Security for bike. |
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So as I am getting a R1200GS I want to make it secure as possible being left outside.
I plan on getting two ground anchors and setting them in concrete.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~IoAAOSwxAtghcjr/s-l1600.jpg One for the rear of the bike one for the front.
This will be flush with the concrete so there is no chance of them breaking these (or the time it would take to break it would not be worth it).
I will also be getting a alarmed disc lock. (I know how easy these break) it's mainly a deterrent.)
I choose a oxford Alpha XA14 with 14mm pin.
https://www.oxfordproducts.com/graphics_cache/b/1/16384-lk217_1-1-3-1000.jpg
I know oxford are not the most popular on here but it seems like a pretty solid choice for the price.
I might also stick a gps tracker Sticker on the bike as well. (I don't plan to put a tracker on the bike yet but maybe it will be another deterrent?) your thoughts on if its worth it.
What I need to choose now is two good motorcycle chains. So any suggestions would be great.
Also a motorcycle cover that can fit a R1200GSA.
I am also thinking of getting a motion sensor floodlight for the front of the drive. (I got one for the porch). Maybe a camera as well. Actually, we already have a decretive camera fitted (does not work). Dunno if it would be worth it to actually get a working one.
I do understand that if the fuckers want the bike they will find a way to get it. But I'll be damned if I'm gonna make it easy for them.
The way I see it is. If they have to cut two chains and a disc lock. that is a solid 15minutes of work and a lot of noise. Also, it would mean the only people who would target it would be a pro bike thief and not the local yobbos.
Plus I have a two car drive. When I park the cars at night I can make it impossible for the motorbike to be pushed between them. So they would either have to break into the car and release the handbrake or try to lift a R1200GSA which weighs 250kg over a 3ft fence.
I'm doing all this because I probably will not drive it for a month or two. And I just measured my doorway and my previous plan of just pushing it through the house and storing it in the garden is not going to work. The bike is too fucking wide lol. ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
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Two ground anchors is a bit OTT unless you're going to thread a separate chain through each (as otherwise if a single chain, they'll just cut the chain). That anchor looks a bit lightweight to me? I'd go for something very heavyweight, and get a massoosive chain. It'll weigh a ton and cost a bomb, but if security deterrents work you'll never need to replace it in theory.
Budget on spending £1k on security measures if you want to do it properly. Yes, it's expensive, but it's cheaper and less hassle than a nicked bike (caveat: no guarantees of course, but it makes is much less likely).
A GS is less likely to be pinched by the local scrotes, especially if guarded with heavy security, but a pro bike thief will still have it away if they want it.
It's all about layers; chains, ground anchors, disc locks, steering lock, cover, PIR, cameras etc.. anything you can do to inconvenience a thief will make it less attractive. The value of the bike remains unchanged, so it's all about the value:hassle ratio, increase the hassle until it's not worth going for anymore. ____________________ TG. |
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ThunderGuts wrote: | Two ground anchors is a bit OTT unless you're going to thread a separate chain through each (as otherwise if a single chain, they'll just cut the chain). That anchor looks a bit lightweight to me? I'd go for something very heavyweight, and get a massoosive chain. It'll weigh a ton and cost a bomb, but if security deterrents work you'll never need to replace it in theory.
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Yea, I plan on getting two seperate chains.
One for the front of the bike and one for the back.
And the alarmed disc brake.
So ye, they could get the bike but its gonna be noisy.
As for the ground anchor looking a bit lightweight.
This is what it looks like once in the ground.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f4/e4/cd/f4e4cd8a12373c448b9c3c8c8d73cb2b.jpg
There is no way they are breaking that. far easier to cut the chain with an angle grinder. ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
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I think with something of that price point you're going to have a compromise somewhere; it's a very low-end anchor for a high end bike! It will probably be easy to cut with an angle grinder, might also be vulnerable to impact attack.
Expect to pay £150 minimum for a decent anchor, £300 for a decent chain etc.. - they're not cheap, but they are worth it. ____________________ TG. |
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ThunderGuts wrote: |
I think with something of that price point you're going to have a compromise somewhere; it's a very low-end anchor for a high end bike! It will probably be easy to cut with an angle grinder, might also be vulnerable to impact attack.
Expect to pay £150 minimum for a decent anchor, £300 for a decent chain etc.. - they're not cheap, but they are worth it. |
How will you go about cutting this ground anchor with an angle grinder?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f4/e4/cd/f4e4cd8a12373c448b9c3c8c8d73cb2b.jpg
its literally a hole in the ground.
If they was going to angle grind anything surely they would target the chain? ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current
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Zen Dog wrote: | adam277 wrote: | How will you go about cutting this ground anchor with an angle grinder? |
I'm definitely not an expert on the capabilities of angle grinders, but I'd assume, like this? -
https://i.imgur.com/4ZrqOta.jpg
Cut out the "middle triangle" and remove? No idea if that would be easier than cutting the chain though. |
But then you still have to cut the chain.. so it''s another layer. TBF it doesn't look that bad an idea... although it might get full of crap depending on your driveway construction. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 13:31 - 30 Nov 2021 Post subject: Re: Security for bike. |
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adam277 wrote: | I plan on getting two ground anchors and setting them in concrete.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~IoAAOSwxAtghcjr/s-l1600.jpg One for the rear of the bike one for the front.
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I will also be getting a alarmed disc lock.
I might also stick a gps tracker Sticker on the bike as well. (I don't plan to put a tracker on the bike yet but maybe it will be another deterrent?) your thoughts on if its worth it.
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I am also thinking of getting a motion sensor floodlight for the front of the drive. (I got one for the porch). Maybe a camera as well. |
That's a lot of security, do you live in the ghetto?
If I wanted to steal your bike then I'd let you unlock both the chains, remove the disc lock, wheel it past the cctv and move both the cars out the way before relieving you of your bike.
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adam277 wrote: |
So by cutting out that all they are doing is cutting out the concrete that filled the Y-Shaped cavity.
They still then have to cut the ground anchor itself.
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I assumed they'd go straight through the concrete, then the metal of the anchor. But you're right, probably is easier to just cut the chain, and A100man is right that you'll still need to cut the chain (or lift and carry the bike, roll it with the chain still attached etc.) ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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