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xX-Alex-Xx
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 14 Feb 2022    Post subject: New highway code rules (pedestrians) Reply with quote

Has anyone actually made sure that pedestrians are aware of the new rules?

There's been a lot of talk about making sure that drivers are aware of the new rules, but since they've come in, I've stopped many times to let pedestrians cross the street first that I'm turning into, and I'd say 9 out of 10 times they still stand there expecting me to go first even after I wave them across.

That's just doing it in the car as well, can't wait to try it on the bike where I'm 100 times more likely to get rear-ended...
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 14 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a discussion on my local neighbourhood website where a pedestrian said a car had stopped abruptly at a roundabout because the pedestrian was waiting on the pavement. The pedestrian was concerned that the renewed emphasis on giving way was causing confusion and increasing the potential for an accident both in front and behind. Quite right. So yes, some pedestrians are aware.

I haven’t changed how I drive/ride except I’m looking out for any fools who now think they’ve an automatic right (they still haven’t) to leap into the road. Hasn’t happened yet. Common sense still rules.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 14 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have inadvertently stumbled on the reason this flawed.

ROAD users are trained. Pedestrians ain’t.

That’s why giving them priority over traffic is questionable.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 14 Feb 2022    Post subject: Re: New highway code rules (pedestrians) Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
can't wait to try it on the bike where I'm 100 times more likely to get rear-ended...


Most of the time, I ride with the action camera switched on.
I have been in a situation when, before these new rules were devised, I was riding along with an absent-minded driver a bit too close behind me, and I approached a zebra crossing. Seeing a couple of schoolgirls engrossed in their phones about to cross, I slowed and stopped. The guy in the car behind me slammed on his brakes and his car skidded and stopped just before hitting me.

Point being, I don't care what the rules say - I'm not risking becoming a paraplegic to honour these rules. When on a bike, there is absolutely no chance I will have these rules in mind, should someone be in the middle of the road and a car behind me. He both swerved and skidded, like in an 80s cop drama, and his car door was right up next to my number plate. I'd rather answer to the authorities with the help of my action camera footage, and face the music, than put myself at serious risk of harm. I'd like to preserve all life and prevent all injury to all persons, but my priority is my own safety and not a pedestrian's, no matter how young or stupid that ped might be. That said, I don't live in, say, London (where it's the norm for peds to walk out into the road, oblivious) and I have no intention of going there. Everyone's situation differs depending on where they are, and everyone's consequences are on their own head. On this forum here, most of us aren't rage monkeys, I reckon. So, common sense above everything (including the new rules).
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve dabbled with action cameras but to me speeds and distances don’t look realistic through a lens.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keithy wrote:
You have inadvertently stumbled on the reason this flawed.

ROAD users are trained. Pedestrians ain’t.

That’s why giving them priority over traffic is questionable.


Before there was an understanding that the big metal box will hit and kill you if you stepped out of line. Now it's a blame culture on the driver if a poor old phone zombie steps out and gets hit.
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PostPosted: 07:10 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've already seen news reports down here (portsmouth) where pedestrians are now blindly just walking out without looking, including between parked cars, expecting the cars to stop.

I have also had a chat with our local examiner who said the DVSA do not like the new rules. They agree its dangerous and it will put road users at risk. We have a test route here where we turn left into a side street from a 40mph road. Cars will not expect the bike to come to a complete stop, especially with the examiner behind.

But if you look at the actual wording, it is not a mandatory:

Quote:
The updated code clarifies that:

when people are crossing or waiting to cross at a junction, other traffic should give way
crossing


Should is not a must.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am riding exactly the same as did last month, last year & last decade. As yet no pedestrians have been killed and I am not expecting to fall foul of the rozzers. A lot of fuss over nothing much
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck, so you're saying I've not to shout at pedestrians crossing the street, rev bomb them and kick them as I go past? Crying or Very sad what's the fucking point now Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 15 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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