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First service done yesterday. Only managed 470 miles before the pre booked date came around but the cold snap we
had buggered any chance of me getting 600 done in time. The chain had gone so slack that I didn't fancy another 150 odd
miles with it running like that so I'm not that bothered. Needless to say it lashed down and blew a gale yesterday, sods law.
They gave me a Suzuki V-Strom 1050 XT as a courtesy bike (which they forgot to charge me for,  but should have been
£15 extra on top of the bill for the service) I was annoyed that I had to immediately put a fivers worth into the Suzuki as
I noticed the fuel light flashing half a mile away from Fowlers. I got a receipt for the fuel with the hope they would knock
it off the bill, instead they stuck a gallon in the MT10 before I took it home  . I rode my bike there and back in mode
D which is rain mode and drops the power to 100bhp, and has maximum ABS, TCS and engine braking settings.
I barely touched the brakes in either direction so effective it was. I was surprised at how easy it was to ride in the wet,
I wasn't looking forward to it at all. Removing Yamaha's hideous tail piece did mean I had a load of crud sprayed up my
back after a ride in the shitty conditions but I'll suffer that to have the bike looking so much better than it did with it on.
The bike is filthy after the three mile ride home, even though it was washed as part of the service so I'm just about to take
it out front for a quick jetwash to get the crud off of it before it goes to bed for the winter. I can't wait for the springtime to
come around so I can go and give it a proper thrashing, I'm not tiptoeing around the rev counter anymore. Broken back in 3... 2...
Edit... Did I say I was going to wash it? As I finished this post I looked outside and it was bloody raining again. Unbelievable.   
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| grr666 wrote: | First service done yesterday. Only managed 470 miles before the pre booked date came around but the cold snap we
had buggered any chance of me getting 600 done in time. The chain had gone so slack that I didn't fancy another 150 odd
miles with it running like that so I'm not that bothered. Needless to say it lashed down and blew a gale yesterday, sods law.
They gave me a Suzuki V-Strom 1050 XT as a courtesy bike (which they forgot to charge me for, but should have been
£15 extra on top of the bill for the service) I was annoyed that I had to immediately put a fivers worth into the Suzuki as
I noticed the fuel light flashing half a mile away from Fowlers. I got a receipt for the fuel with the hope they would knock
it off the bill, instead they stuck a gallon in the MT10 before I took it home . I rode my bike there and back in mode
D which is rain mode and drops the power to 100bhp, and has maximum ABS, TCS and engine braking settings.
I barely touched the brakes in either direction so effective it was. I was surprised at how easy it was to ride in the wet,
I wasn't looking forward to it at all. Removing Yamaha's hideous tail piece did mean I had a load of crud sprayed up my
back after a ride in the shitty conditions but I'll suffer that to have the bike looking so much better than it did with it on.
The bike is filthy after the three mile ride home, even though it was washed as part of the service so I'm just about to take
it out front for a quick jetwash to get the crud off of it before it goes to bed for the winter. I can't wait for the springtime to
come around so I can go and give it a proper thrashing, I'm not tiptoeing around the rev counter anymore. Broken back in 3... 2...
Edit... Did I say I was going to wash it? As I finished this post I looked outside and it was bloody raining again. Unbelievable. |
are you shaw mode D drops BHP i dont on the normal mt10 or my 2019 SP
normal all mode D does does is put traction control to max and you still have full power on throttel but 100percent throttel is at the stop
the modes dont change the power only how far you have to twist the thrrottle for 100 percent throttle
i rearly take it out of mode B seems about right and it will let the frount wheel pop up about a meter before Tracking control kicks in
I stick in A when i want to go mental but its to twitch in traffic rarelly in A
thats unless they changed it in the new one?
did they give any idear why chain had streached so much iv only had to ajust mine and not by much in 5000 miles bit it was on 1185 when i brourt it
none of the modes affect ABS or Engine breaking It just feels like it does becuse in a or the throttel movement id less so when you close you doing quicker
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| Posted: 22:43 - 21 Dec 2022 Post subject: |
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just checked the power modes are still the same on the new SP as the older ones
all they do is change how agressive the thrrottle is and dont limet power
trust me when you get use to it you will proberly leave it in B 99.9percent of the time
trust me there a pieace of cake to ride
id been riding a harley for years before the MT10
the only thing that took getting use to the first day was haveing brakes that acturly work
the only thing to rember on mt10 is due the high engine torque and it mapped lkower down that the R1
so its got better enging brakeing than many crutch rockets
modes =
A mode kamikaze pilots
B mode Normal/every one else
C mode im scared of the rain and a bit of a pussy
D mode iv just got the bike and still learning it / or i need new underwear and should have got a old grandad bike
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She's a beauty!
I know you'll enjoy her. I don't think there's a better naked bike out there at the moment, in my humble opinion.
I enjoyed many miles on mine all over the country and to France and back. For a naked bike it stood up to the task admirably and is a complete riot round the twisties.
Mine is up for sale now though as I've got my eyes on a Multistrada (hopefully) or if not, definitely something in the sports adventure or sports tourer segments. I just know I'm going to miss the MT though! I'll be beside myself when she leaves me 
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| MarJay wrote: | The MT10 ought to be right up my street. Cross plane crank, light weight, quality suspension and bucketloads of power.
But somehow it just leaves me cold. I can't really explain why. The looks don't do it for me, but I do own a GSX-S1000F which is not exactly a looker itself. The lack of fuel range and the raw nature I keep hearing about doesn't really appeal either.
If I were to buy a Yamaha right now, it would probably be the new XSR900... but that's for different reasons.
If I were to buy a big-ass street bike I'd like to think it would be a Tuono 1100, but honestly that's too tall for me. For an actual naked I'd probably go something more retro like a Z900RS. |
Funny you should say that because that's exactly how I described the KTM 1290 left me feeling after I test rode one (or two, actually) when I was window-shopping last summer looking for something a little bit more touring-capable (I test rode the 1290 Superduke and the 1290 Super Adventure as what I was after actually falls between those two models, the 1290 GT, but they didn't have a demo so I had to ride the other two to try to form an opinion of what to expect from a GT). Coming from the MT10 which has a VERY characterful engine, especially for an inline 4, I got on the 1290s expecting to be bedazzled by the power and torque and engine character (going from all the hype on the reviews) and it just left me feeling... yeah... cold! Yes bucket loads of power and torque at low revs but quickly ran out of puff at higher revs. Felt like I was constantly having to change UP (not DOWN) gears to get any thrills and just didn't rev out and feel anywhere near as racy as the MT10. I've only ridden a handful of V-twins before and none of them were as powerful as the 1290. So I dunno, maybe V-twins just aren't for me! Or maybe it would grow on me if I lived with it for more than an hour's test ride? I just love the fact that the crossplane on the MT10 gives the best of both worlds of both low down grumbly grunt AND being able to rev it out while still pulling all the way through the rev range until it's screaming at the top end. The 1290 just didn't seem to have any guts at higher revs and all other traditional inline 4s have no guts down low.
So I've come to the conclusion that perhaps only the following engine configurations are capable of satisfying my itch:
Triples
Crossplane inline 4s
V4s
I think any kind of twin and bog standard fours are out the window for me now. They're just one extreme or the other.
I've never ridden a triple or a V4 but I understand their characteristics are similar to the crossplane 4 (in as much as giving the best of both worlds). Would that be a fair or accurate statement or am I talking out of my arse?
I actually think the GSX-S1000F is a good-looking bike and the newer GT is even better (especially in that bright blue they do). Not sure I can live with a 'boring' inline 4 though.
And yes the fuel economy on my MT10 is woeful! Tank size doesn't help either. I get 120 miles from the brim to dry so stopping every 100 miles or so. Bit of a chore when travelling to south of France!
I'm with you on the Yam XSRs and the Kwak RSs though! Especially the green and gold Kwaks. They're pretty bikes. But I don't buy a bike for its looks! Bikes aren't for looking at. That's what women are for.
I like the Tuono as well but the last guy I knew who had one is a bellend so kinda put me off.
| grr666 wrote: | I went for brand new because I'm not particularly mechanically minded and wouldn't have a clue if I was buying a pup
on the second hand market and if I did I'd have to pay someone to put that right. A decent warranty,the option to buy
3 years gap insurance (which I did), two years free recovery, no need for MOT until late 2025. It all adds up. |
I done the same but it was more for price reasons. I paid £13,000 for mine brand new in 2021. The cheapest used one I could find anywhere was £11,500 for 2017 models. What the actual fuck? Parting with an extra £1,500 was a no-brainer in itself. Like you say, add in all those extra perks you've listed above, all adds to the experience.
Funny how you can buy a bike (or a car for that matter) for, say, £10,000. £2,000 of that is VAT so the bike is actually only £8,000. Sell it the next day with 10 miles on the clock for £9,500 no VAT.
I've always thought depreciation should be MINIMUM 20% as soon as it leaves the showroom door. It seldom is. Seeing as most of us can't claim the VAT back on our bikes, it makes a compelling argument to buy new when used prices are so bloody high.
| grr666 wrote: | I whipped off the stock mirrors and bar weights and replaced them with the Oberon bar end
mirrors that used to reside on the Spacker. They aren't ideal but the stock efforts were a bit vibey anyway and no
matter how much I faffed about with them most of the lens was filled with a spectacular view of my own arms. |
Each to their own but I have never been a fan of bar end mirrors. Effectively having to look down at your handle bars to see behind you. Traditional mirrors are my preference, when they work!
I got extended stock mirrors for mine. You can buy them from Wemoto. They come as the whole mirror units. But you can see the quality of the mounting bits are clearly inferior to the original items. So a good hack is to unscrew the stalks and swap them over. That way you get extended mirrors with the OEM quality. Can't say I ever had any problems with vibration on mine. I'm sure you're already aware of this anyway but you can also get risers/extenders that at the base to bring them up and/or outwards. Not the best looking solution but more functional than bar ends, I find. Just a thought.
| dave001 wrote: | I stick in A when i want to go mental but its to twitch in traffic rarelly in A |
Mine is same as yours and mine isn't twitchy in mode A. I leave it in mode A all the time actually. But I have had a dyno tune / remap. Have you got an aftermarket exhaust on there? This could have changed the way the throttle responds.
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| dave001 wrote: | just checked the power modes are still the same on the new SP as the older ones
all they do is change how agressive the thrrottle is and dont limet power |
https://www.rideapart.com/reviews/603885/2022-yamaha-mt-10-review/
| Quote: | Similar to the 2021 MT-09 and 2022 XSR900, Team Blue bids adieu to its old three-setting ride mode system (A, B, and C) in favor of four fine-tuned settings (1, 2, 3, and 4). The first three options all arrive at the MT’s maximum output of 164 horsepower (at 11,500 rpm) and 82.6 lb-ft of torque (at 9,000 rpm); they just take different routes to get there, with throttle response softening as numerical order ascends. When the forecast calls for precipitation, the fourth mode limits both power and acceleration to preserve purchase. |
I've read in a few places that mode 4 does also restrict power. It certainly felt like it when I rode it that way.
I've had it on mode 2 since leaving the dealer and had no problem with the bike in general, I was just being
over cautious on my first (and hopefully last) couple of rides in the wet. I am a fair weather fairy and like to
keep a spotless bike. Mode 4 felt so gutless I wondered if there was something wrong with the bike it
spins along so effortlessly usually.
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| grr666 wrote: | | dave001 wrote: | just checked the power modes are still the same on the new SP as the older ones
all they do is change how agressive the thrrottle is and dont limet power |
https://www.rideapart.com/reviews/603885/2022-yamaha-mt-10-review/
| Quote: | Similar to the 2021 MT-09 and 2022 XSR900, Team Blue bids adieu to its old three-setting ride mode system (A, B, and C) in favor of four fine-tuned settings (1, 2, 3, and 4). The first three options all arrive at the MT’s maximum output of 164 horsepower (at 11,500 rpm) and 82.6 lb-ft of torque (at 9,000 rpm); they just take different routes to get there, with throttle response softening as numerical order ascends. When the forecast calls for precipitation, the fourth mode limits both power and acceleration to preserve purchase. |
I've read in a few places that mode 4 does also restrict power. It certainly felt like it when I rode it that way.
I've had it on mode 2 since leaving the dealer and had no problem with the bike in general, I was just being
over cautious on my first (and hopefully last) couple of rides in the wet. I am a fair weather fairy and like to
keep a spotless bike. Mode 4 felt so gutless I wondered if there was something wrong with the bike it
spins along so effortlessly usually. |
yep thats my reson for not getiing it wet if i can help it
I hate the fucking cleaning em
ill have to try mode D iv only ever had in in for about 3mins the firdt time out on it
but as far as i know it dont reduce power from everything iv read and seen but may be wroung
i do now the modes are back wards in the SP compared to the normal MT |
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