Extinction Rebellion or how not to win an argument

[Islander]

[chickenstrip]

Nobby's an idiot, hence my blocking him. What is this claim of "my rabid hatred of scientists"? Can he not understand plain English?
His head is like a pinball machine: lots of flashing lights, buzzers and bells, but nothing of any substance going on in there.
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[Easy-X]

To be clear: it's not the concept of Climate Change people generally have a problem with it's the inept solutions.
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[Islander]

[chickenstrip]

[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Once again, pot, kettle.
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[Islander]

Here's an interesting little revelation, nothing brand new but still:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

[url]https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abk0063
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2009/jul/01/exxon-mobil-climate-change-sceptics-funding

Yes, I know that's the Grauniad but you'll find the same story in a lot of news articles across the spectrum.

So, even the oil companies knew about climate change as far back as the 1970s. Of course they did the right thing by the world, didn't they?

Did they fuck. They funded the climate change deniers instead.

[Islander]

[Easy-X]

Hardly surprising. It's a re-run of what the tobacco companies did and what Pfizer is doing now with the Covid "vaccines."

With regards to real solutions to Climate Change: declare war on China, reform the Empire and take back India, the Americas and Africa by force. We can then dictate agricultural, industrial and energy generation policies on a scale large enough to make a difference.
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[Islander]

[Easy-X]

Without getting the USA, India, China onside and supressing the development of Africa and South American I would suggest Climate Change will only get much, much worse The sort of shenanigans the Chinese are willing to pull it's pretty much a fait accompli at this point.

And how did you get in the pocket of Pfizer? Even I'd consider selling my soul for that sort of money
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[Islander]

[doggone]

[Easy-X]

[Islander]

[Islander]

[Easy-X]

[Islander]

[Easy-X]

My job is computer programming, my hobby is restoration, repair and servicing of motorcycles and I study psychology. Why you would think me capable of a technical solution to Climate Change? (Hang on! I think I saw a Terraforming device behind the sofa... damn, no it's my Raspberry Pi.)

I offered a general direction of travel: continue the progress of improving ICE technology (more power, less emissions) which you've flatly ignored. I stated my reasons: to pass said improvements onto developing countries which I would reason would not be so quick to replace all their vehicles with EVs and would be grateful of such improvements. Again, ignored.

Sorry, but if you want technical specifications ask a Climatologist! If it all hinges on what I can come up with after 4 cans of cider we really are fucked.
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[M.C]

[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Four decades for the ozone layer to recover fully, apparently.

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/ozone-layer-recovery-track-helping-avoid-global-warming-05degc
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[Polarbear]

I don't think we can save the planet and population as we know it.

If the temperature rise isn't due to humans then nothing we do will stop it. If it is due to humans then we will never get it under control while 3/4 of the worlds population want what the other 1/4 have.

China says it will get it's coal fired powerstations offline in 30 years, maybe it will as it has the tecnology and the will to do that but is that soon enough.

India doesn't have the will, the infrastructue or the inclination. It puts billions of tonnes of human waste directly into rivers and oceans. It burns anyhing and everything to create electricity and of it's billion+ people most are more interested in where there next meal is coming from and how to charge their Iphones than saving the human race.

I'm not picking on them for any other reason than they are the bigges pollters with the largest population, If they (and the US) aren't onside nothing will suceed.

We need to control the worlds population, 1 kid then compulsory steralisation or something like that. But it isn't going to work is it. It's a 'human right' to have kids and as China showed, it's not an easy thing to enforce even with a powerful state controlling society.

Then we will have to do other unpalatable things. Take the Amazon. Scientists say ff Brazil will not stop logging and deforrestation the Amazon wont beable to act as the CO2 sink it now is. If true there is only one answer, invade and stop them. Yes people will die but the human race might survive. It wont if we wipe out ecologically critical regions.

Don't bother saying pay them to stop, that doesn't work, it never has and never will. Money just dissapears into some random persons pocket as all the charity donations for African projects has shown and everything proceeds as before.

What else? You think the migrants heading to Europe and North America is bad now? Wait untill mass starvation pushes millions into taking the risk of migrating.

But hey, the electric car will sort everything out.

Yes, I'm pretty cynical about the whole thing.
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