Thinking about upgrading to a new PC

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

I've had the same two computers for a while now so here are the specs of them:

Home PC (built late 2018):

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X,
MSI RTX 3060 Ti Ventus 3 OC (replaced original RTX 2080 Ti),
Gigabyte AORUS Gaming 7 (X470 chipset),
Gigabyte AORUS DDR4 3,200MHz RAM (4 x 8GB),
Samsung 980EVO 1TB NVMe (M.2 SSD).

Office PC (built middle 2018):

AMD Ryzen 7 2600X,
MSI RTX 3090 SUPRIM X OC (replaced original RTX 1660 Super),
Gigabyte AORUS Elite (B450 chipset),
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3,600MHz RAM (2 x 16GB),
2 x WD Blue SN570 1TB NVMe (M.2 SSD).

Thinking about moving my home PC to run an Intel CPU and an RTX 4090 and swapping the old board and CPU into my current office PC and carrying over the faster RAM and 3090 into it.

I've not had an Intel CPU since the Pentium 3! I was an AMD guy and I had the same AMD Phenom II X6 1100T since 2010 all the way up to a whole new PC in 2018. I wasn't huge on PC gaming back then it was PS2, PS3 and PS4 all the way.

Is there a big difference between the K, F and KF versions? Anyone know a good bang-for-buck board to pair them with?
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[xX-Alex-Xx]

K is only worth it if you're overclocking (or you get it for the same price as a non-K)
F just means you need a dedicated GPU for the rig.

Not looked at boards lately so can't say, but I REALLY need to up mine as I'm still on a 4th Gen i7
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[blurredman]

Your current systems already sound like the hardware i'll be buying in 10 years time.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[dave001]

[P.]

[dave001]

[Easy-X]

The mid-range i5 and up 13th Gen Intels look pretty tasty. Moar cores = moar gooder
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[blurredman]

Where's the love for PowerVR?
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Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 39k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 50k.

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

So far I am thinking of:

NZXT N7 Z790 E-ATX motherboard (£299.99) paired with an Intel Core i9 13900K (£579.99).

The 13900K has a boost speed of 5.8 GHz but there is a 13900KS which has a boost speed of 6.0 GHz but it retails at £699.99. Since I am going to be water-cooling and overclocking it anyway, I guess they will both ultimately be comparable performance wise?

The case I am thinking of using is the Corsair 7000D Airflow case (£299.99) as it can fit a pre-made, case-specific EKWB distribution plate with integrated pump (£359.99).

I am looking through NZXT's QVL for RAM trying to locate the best 6,000 MHz memory with lowest latencies. With they reported the latency of the sets on the QVL but they don't.
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[Easy-X]

Don't forget I have first dibs on your old video card
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[P.]

I built a 'customer' a 13900K and it's been back and forth with RAM issues. He's down to 2 stick now and it's running fine, same as another colleague with their DDR5 intel rig. Go careful with going too high clock and try to keep to 2 sticks.

I use a 5000D and it's spacious.

Are you cooking the GPU too, if so, you'd need a decent pair of rads, I personally don't like distribution reservoirs and run a chunky D5 in the void area out back, into 2 360s. You'll need decent bits to keep a 40 series and a 13900K sensible temps.

Enjoy the build

[DaddyStu]

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Easy-X]

Just bear in mind if you have an imbalance between the intake and exhaust airflow rates it's better to have a bit of positive pressure inside the case otherwise dust builds up on a seam somewhere and looks unsightly
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[P.]

I use SP120 fans as they were rated pretty much top for static pressure through a standard size radiator.

[Fat Angry Scotsman]

Just an update on what I have decided upon so far:

Case = Corsair 7000D Airflow - Black (£299.99 - Scan),
Case distro = EKWB Quantum Reflection² 7000D (£359.99 - Overclockers),
Motherboard = NZXT N7 Z790 - Black (£289.99 - Scan),
CPU = Intel Core i9 - 13900K (£569.99 - Overclockers),
CPU waterblock = EKWB Velocity2 D-RGB 1700 - Nickel + Acetal (£109.99 - Scan).

Going to buy everything above at the end of the month when I get paid.

Still deciding on RAM configuration and what card to watercool.
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[P.]

Those boards are tripe btw. Absolute shit tier chipset and quality. Had the Z370/390 series and it was wank too.

[CaNsA]

I've been soaking up the 'tism in this thread, it's taken all my might to not post until now.

NZXT boards are wank.
Proper wanky type wank.

The case you have chosen is decent, however I am a bequiet! fanboi and the 500dx is awesome

[Easy-X]

Personally I like to go for max processing power at the lowest Watts which is usually one of the mid-range i5 processors. I run a rad even though it's OTT as the main fan can run super slow. On top of that I prefer heat tower style cases so you have convection as a backup on fan failure
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[Easy-X]

Gigabyte have always been solid for me. MSI not so much. I think I had an ASRock board years ago, seemed okay.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

[P.]

Gigabyte are the main provider for me when it comes to reliability. I do have an ASUS board waiting for a customer but that's a really high end board and not worth it (he doesn't listen tho)

I'm a huge fan of the mid range gigabyte stuff. Going higher with the aorus (which is just a name and dreadful RGB option) is not worth it if you really don't want to brand whore.

NZXT previously worked with and modelled on the ECS board manufacturer, which aside from some decent changes (RAM speeds, vrm cooling etc) are still essentially a £50 board with a £250 price tag. I wouldn't overclock with one.

Going against the brand whore aorus, this is probably one of the nicer flexible boards for them right now.

https://www.box.co.uk/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-Gigabyte-Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-Intel-Socke_4342196.html?cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=18269450562&cq_con=&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=x&cq_pos=&cq_plt=gp&gclid=CjwKCAjwue6hBhBVEiwA9YTx8PoxvQtFl9zJ0JaigJRdvX80xCrqIKlkmv88rGPEZw7wHx9orC3NHhoCbnwQAvD_BwE

[CaNsA]