|
|
| Author |
Message |
| A100man |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 A100man World Chat Champion

Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :   
|
 Posted: 10:57 - 19 Jun 2023 Post subject: BMW Electrical 'fire' |
 |
|
So..
big bro's R100RS nearly caught fire the other day when the dip-switch wiring went up in smoke. I was aghast and said 'bbbut the fuse should have blown before that happened..'
..only research reveals that Beemers of that era run with headlights unfused!
Replacement OEM switch and wiring £640 apparently , but cheaper patter ones are available (not doubt it's a lucrative market).
We think that the relay went bad with an internal short and caused the issue (really low Ohms reading across the coil) as there doesn't seem to be any other possibility.
Has anyone else come across this? I going to try and insert an inline fuse too I think)
Cheers ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| stinkwheel |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :    
|
 Posted: 11:02 - 19 Jun 2023 Post subject: |
 |
|
Yes, I have seen an R100 belonging to a mate whos headlamp wiring caught fire. He'd landed up stopped at the side of the road ripping wires out from behind the dash and had melted his gloves and slightly burned his hands when he arrived at the rally we were both attending.
At the time I'd put it down to him having done something stupid to it because that kind of thing seems to happen a lot when he's about. It's certainly not the first (or second or third) time he's had an electrical fire on one of his bikes. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| WD Forte |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 WD Forte World Chat Champion

Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :   
|
 Posted: 11:59 - 19 Jun 2023 Post subject: |
 |
|
If its localised to the lights,wire it yourself.
you can buy modern thinwall cable of a suitable rating (say 16A)for not much and it comes in range of attractive colours.
You buy it by the yard/meter too
Fuse it for sure, a 55/65W blub will take around 5 amps
so fuse it for 10 to handle inrush current
I'd use blade over glass fuses for robustness cheapness
and availability
You do need the extras of course to do a good job
but can match or exceed the original with stuff like
soldering iron, solder, terminal kits, crimping tools, heat shrink sleeving wrapping tape etc depending on how you do it.
Dont baulk at buying the kit as it will serve for many other uses
I'd start by examining the wiring diagram to help decide the best location to insert a fuse.
A quick google showed me this impressive page but its for 1977 era
and not sure if relevant for your bros bike
https://brook.reams.me/bmw-airhead-motorcycle-electrical-systems/7-series-1977-r100rs-circuits/#Headlight_HIGH-LOW-FLASH_Switch_High_Beam ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| A100man |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 A100man World Chat Champion

Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :   
|
 Posted: 12:35 - 19 Jun 2023 Post subject: |
 |
|
His is later model (mid 80s I think) but this wiring looks similar.. It was the white and yellow/white that combusted. I'm guessing a fuse on the red input to relay terminal 30 is the way to go.
PS He passes on thanks & regards for the trousers - they fitted a treat! ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| MCN |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 MCN Super Spammer

Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :   
|
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| stinkwheel |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist

Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :    
|
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
| A100man |
This post is not being displayed .
|
 A100man World Chat Champion

Joined: 19 Aug 2013 Karma :   
|
 Posted: 09:38 - 29 Jun 2023 Post subject: |
 |
|
So..
We tracked down the fault after stripping off the tank and fairing (well he did that) somewhat predictably a chafed wire and outer sleeve around the headstock, suspicion that poor routing may have lead to it being trapped in the lock stops.. Ruddy Germans.
meaning.. that short took out an entire headlight switch assembly/loom that costs 640 quid OEM part, luckily a pattern replacement is about 170.. One might consider repairing it but there was a staggering number of wires in there, and two multi-way connectors. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
|
| Back to top |
|
You must be logged in to rate posts |
|
 |
Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 172 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
 |
|
|