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PostPosted: 11:17 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Lexmoto Viper 125 help needed Reply with quote

Hi,

Ive got a lexmoto viper 2019 125 which is having idling problems. Specifically, when I come to a stop whilst in gear, the bike will cut out unless I keep on the throttle and keep RPMs at 2k+.

The bike is fuel injected.

Ive ran it through an OBD and these are the codes its returning:

P0132: O2 sensor circuit high voltage bank 1 sensor 1.

P0231: Fuel pump secondary circuit low

P2300: Ignition coil A primary control circuit low

P0506: Idle air control, system RPM lower than expected

P0562: System voltage low.

Could anyone shed some more light on what these codes mean and how I would go about fixing them and the problems im having with engine cutting out.

Thank you
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

O2 sensor high voltage means the lambda sensor in the exhaust isn't working.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
O2 sensor high voltage means the lambda sensor in the exhaust isn't working.


Thats not what I wanted to hear lol, expensive fix but I might be able to find one cheap on ebay or something. Any idea about the other codes?
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible that all these are related to low voltage.

What voltage do you get at the battery when it's running?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil Hans wrote:
It's possible that all these are related to low voltage.

What voltage do you get at the battery when it's running?


Hi, im not sure, how would I be able to find out? Does this mean ill likely need a new battery?
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

my keeway was in a sad state when i got it, sans battery...Once all fixed 6 months later by me, I had some codes (with new battery). Clearing codes with OBD just made them come back...similar codes to the above.
Apparently, the ECU needed some training.

I cleared all codes first..then
Start bike from cold...keep revs above 3k for 10 seconds (that doesnt mean 9k is ok!!! just "above" 3k.). Keep revs there, count to 10 then shut off using the KEY.

bingo, all codes gone as ECU has now learnt whatever it needed to learn. My codes were related to ignition coil, lambda and fuel injector. Ive done about 1000km since...no check engine light.

As others above me have said, fix your low battery first...by using a voltmeter to confirm its faulty then buying a new battery. Or just buy a new battery. £35 ish.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

that_impulse_guy wrote:
my keeway was in a sad state when i got it, sans battery...Once all fixed 6 months later by me, I had some codes (with new battery). Clearing codes with OBD just made them come back...similar codes to the above.
Apparently, the ECU needed some training.

Start bike from cold...keep revs above 3k for 10 seconds (that doesnt mean 9k is ok!!! just "above" 3k.). Keep revs there, count to 10 then shut off using the KEY.

bingo, all codes gone as ECU has now learnt whatever it needed to learn. My codes were related to ignition coil, lambda and fuel injector.

As others above me have said, fix your low battery first...by using a voltmeter to confirm its faulty then buying a new battery. Or just buy a new battery. £35 ish.


Lifesaver! will check the battery with multimeter and see what it reads. Is there a specific value the voltage of the battery should be at?

Also I have another issue with my fuel hoses. One of the hoses connects fine into the fuel tank but the other one was disconnected and is too short to be connected to the fuel tank (the one im pointing at in the photos). I thought this was a breather pipe but ive been told differently. Do I need to buy a longer hose for it?
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must have fitted at some point, otherwise it wouldn't be there. Has it been routed incorrectly?
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It must have fitted at some point, otherwise it wouldn't be there. Has it been routed incorrectly?


I believe so. It just doesnt reach the fuel return socket on the underside of the fuel tank
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

that_impulse_guy wrote:
my keeway was in a sad state when i got it, sans battery...Once all fixed 6 months later by me, I had some codes (with new battery). Clearing codes with OBD just made them come back...similar codes to the above.
Apparently, the ECU needed some training.

I cleared all codes first..then
Start bike from cold...keep revs above 3k for 10 seconds (that doesnt mean 9k is ok!!! just "above" 3k.). Keep revs there, count to 10 then shut off using the KEY.

bingo, all codes gone as ECU has now learnt whatever it needed to learn. My codes were related to ignition coil, lambda and fuel injector. Ive done about 1000km since...no check engine light.

As others above me have said, fix your low battery first...by using a voltmeter to confirm its faulty then buying a new battery. Or just buy a new battery. £35 ish.


Hi, just tested battery and it was at 11.8V on multimeter. I assume battery needs to be changed?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt its a fuel return pipe otherwise you'd have fuel pissing every where
when the bike ran plus most small bikes don't use fuel returns as the pressure regulation is done internally at the pump making it a one way system.

I suspect it may just be an overflow pipe linked to the filler
OR
mebbe part of the Air Injection System
you need to trace it to see where it goes and what it's linked to

11.8 is low for standing battery voltage and effectively flat.
You need to do a few tests to establish whether you need a new
battery or your charging system is iffy

When running say in neutral the battery should climb to around 14V
fairly soon with lights off or at least well over 13v if you have
always on lights.
If it does and the standing voltage drops below 12.4 ish pretty quickly
then the battery is iffy or you have a parasitic drain pulling ti down.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
I doubt its a fuel return pipe otherwise you'd have fuel pissing every where
when the bike ran plus most small bikes don't use fuel returns as the pressure regulation is done internally at the pump making it a one way system.

I suspect it may just be an overflow pipe linked to the filler
OR
mebbe part of the Air Injection System
you need to trace it to see where it goes and what it's linked to

11.8 is low for standing battery voltage and effectively flat.
You need to do a few tests to establish whether you need a new
battery or your charging system is iffy

When running say in neutral the battery should climb to around 14V
fairly soon with lights off or at least well over 13v if you have
always on lights.
If it does and the standing voltage drops below 12.4 ish pretty quickly
then the battery is iffy or you have a parasitic drain pulling ti down.


The problem is I am leaking fuel everywhere. Fuel tank has little to no fuel in it right now but if I fill it up, it starts leaking out in large volumes from that hose. That hose is linked to the EFI fuel pump system, the other hose with it I know connects into my fuel tank and brings fuel from the tank to the engine but no clue what that hose thats disconnected does

Will look to get the battery changed and see if that changes anything, thank you
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filling it with electricity will not fix your fuel problem. That pipe has to be on.

As I said it's probably routed incorrectly. Is it held in by a strap that can be released that can give you more reach?
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Battery voltage is low. Could mean a new battery, could also mean the regulator's not doing its job. If you put a multimeter on the battery when the engine is on (assuming you get past this pipe issue) then let us know what voltage you get.
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Filling it with electricity will not fix your fuel problem. That pipe has to be on.

As I said it's probably routed incorrectly. Is it held in by a strap that can be released that can give you more reach?


Here is a picture of the underside of my fuel tank. The far right large bore hole is for my fuel intake from my EFI fuel pump. The top right small bore hole is the water drain from my fuel cover lid thing. I dont know what the top left small bore and bottom right larger bore hole are for? If you know and could shed some light, id really appreciate it.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats probably where your unconnected pipe is supposed to be connected....
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Thats probably where your unconnected pipe is supposed to be connected....


I thought that but Im sure it doesnt reach... will try again now and see what happens
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

rustyyyy____ wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Thats probably where your unconnected pipe is supposed to be connected....


I thought that but Im sure it doesnt reach... will try again now and see what happens


You were correct! Had to re-route the tube cos it was bent into the wrong place but got it connected and placed a hose clip around it so hopefully it should fall out of place again. Filled the tank up with fuel and no leaks this time!

As for the battery, without key in ignition, the voltage read 12.11-12.5. When I turned the ignition on (headlights working etc) , it dropped to 11.85 and dropped gradually (presumably because battery is powering headlight etc). When I turned the engine on, the lowest the voltage dropped to was 10.36 and then it rapidly climbed back up to 12.80-12.95. When giving it some throttle, the voltage jumped up to 13.50 and then slowly dropped back down to 12.90. So I assume battery is fine actually but im not sure the exact values it should be at.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really should stop helping people like you and let darwin take care of the problem.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I really should stop helping people like you and let darwin take care of the problem.


Please dont, im new to biking and new to repairing and what not. I really do appreciate all the help, its nice to have people who can help me solve the problems instead of going to a dealer and getting ripped off. Thank you again for all the help.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Battery voltage is low. Could mean a new battery, could also mean the regulator's not doing its job. If you put a multimeter on the battery when the engine is on (assuming you get past this pipe issue) then let us know what voltage you get.


As for the battery, without key in ignition, the voltage read 12.11-12.5. When I turned the ignition on (headlights working etc) , it dropped to 11.85 and dropped gradually (presumably because battery is powering headlight etc). When I turned the engine on, the lowest the voltage dropped to was 10.36 and then it rapidly climbed back up to 12.80-12.95. When giving it some throttle, the voltage jumped up to 13.50 and then slowly dropped back down to 12.90. So I assume battery is fine actually but im not sure the exact values it should be at.
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you repeatedly starting it when it was pissing fuel everywhere?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Were you repeatedly starting it when it was pissing fuel everywhere?


No of course not. I may be new to biking but im not new to how fires start lol.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

13V with some revs is a bit low, >14V is ideal. Might not point to an actual fault though, could just be shitty Chinese electrics Wink
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 23 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
13V with some revs is a bit low, >14V is ideal. Might not point to an actual fault though, could just be shitty Chinese electrics Wink


I think its worth me changing the battery and seeing if that clears up any of the voltage OBD codes that cropped up. Not gonna hurt to get it changed anyway
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