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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

The code is still recorded in the ecu and will remain until wiped, it's just that the ecu has realised the fault has stopped. Some faults are intermittent...
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The code is still recorded in the ecu and will remain until wiped, it's just that the ecu has realised the fault has stopped. Some faults are intermittent...

Yeah I know that, same as a car. It just bothered me that the lamp was on that's all. It was serviced in December
all of about 400 miles ago so I didn't want it to go in just for a 1 minute procedure to clear fault codes and pay an
hours labour just for that. Now they can do it when it's due in next.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 09 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just put two new tyres onto my Yamaha and I am cream crackered.

Today I tried using the zip tie trick I saw on youtube which made getting the old tyres off much easier, the front I removed without using any levers at all just pushed with my hands. The rear needed a bit of lever persuasion as well as the zip ties, but it still came off much more easily.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOT’d the ‘03 R1 which I’m embarrassed to say has been off the road for more than two years. It passed but one stanchion was weeping slightly. The tester said it might just be the old seal settling back in after not moving all that time, but I think we both expect it to get worse. I’ve replaced seals on the ZX6R but I’ll get the bike shop to tackle these USDs when it comes to it.

The MOT place had a nice, slightly modded BMW RNineT for sale outside (customer bike), smaller/lower than they look in photos. Tempted to but a new bike but I’d have to get rid of one first and I just can’t do it.

The R1’s new EBC clutch (plates and spring) felt slightly heavier at the lever and I was getting judder at low speeds. No problems otherwise so perhaps they’ll bed in, although the tester said they don’t. Maybe I didn’t oil the friction plates enough, but it said to smear, not soak. There was also an occasional clicking from somewhere. Chain and rear sprocket looked ok but they’re the originals at 34k so I’ll check those and the clutch again. I need to pop round the back of Tesco’s and ride around without a helmet to locate the noise.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 13 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The code is still recorded in the ecu and will remain until wiped, it's just that the ecu has realised the fault has stopped. Some faults are intermittent...


Not all bikes do that, I was told just the other day by a bike mechanic that Suzukis for example never record fault codes. So unless the CEL is lit you won't get a code at all.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 13 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the R1’s fork seal has healed itself (flexed a bit and settled back in after the lay-up) and stopped leaking.

Chain still juddering and I’m wondering if the rear wheel needs a new cush drive. £23 for a full set of 6 from Wemoto.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided to attempt starting the Suzuki up after my recent holiday, just to check that it was still alive before I set off on my weekend jaunt.

However ... it again made this ignition-y bang noise again, and appeared to jam itself. Tried again, still jammed.

I went inside to call the RAC out and then decided perhaps I should investigate the possible oil leak under it, which had shown up just before I went on my hols, and I could also report that to them at the same time. I tipped the bike off the sidestand and peered into the oil window, so there's oil in there - although I suddenly realised its QUITE A LOT of oil, and that perhaps when I had put some oil in it on the way to the Ace Caff a few weeks ago, it probably didn't need it and maybe I had overfilled it.
( Thinking does overfilling the engine with oil cause the ignition to jam? I expect it does other damage I have no idea about, but probably not that Thinking )

Went back indoors, consulted Uncle Grr, and went back out to try one last time before calling out the RAC - and it started and ran (literally purred) as if nothing had been wrong with the ignition ten minutes ago.

So I shall brave it on my intrepid weekend jaunt and see what happens. If it blows up, at least I will probably still have the RAC's number in my recent-calls list on my phone Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I consulted Google/You tube and I found a nice young northern man (called David* ... Thinking ) giving advice - and if I can find the correct sort of spanner, I think I can probably JUST ABOUT DO what he advises in terms of draining out some of the oil Laughing






*I once (and only once) consulted a psychic (not the type of service provider I regularly frequent!) who told me that the man of my dreams was going to be called David.
My problem was that at the time I was dating someone called Barry, and I was certain that Barry was the man of my dreams.
Turns out he wasn't, so now I have to consider every David I meet with a gladsome eye.
Just in case.
The correct David has yet to show himself.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so you know (and should have realised after visiting che Nobby) spanners for the snarley wont work on the suzuki and Vise versa.


My name is NOT David.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
I decided to attempt starting the Suzuki up after my recent holiday, just to check that it was still alive before I set off on my weekend jaunt.

However ... it again made this ignition-y bang noise again, and appeared to jam itself. Tried again, still jammed.

I went inside to call the RAC out and then decided perhaps I should investigate the possible oil leak under it, which had shown up just before I went on my hols, and I could also report that to them at the same time. I tipped the bike off the sidestand and peered into the oil window, so there's oil in there - although I suddenly realised its QUITE A LOT of oil, and that perhaps when I had put some oil in it on the way to the Ace Caff a few weeks ago, it probably didn't need it and maybe I had overfilled it.
( Thinking does overfilling the engine with oil cause the ignition to jam? I expect it does other damage I have no idea about, but probably not that Thinking )

Went back indoors, consulted Uncle Grr, and went back out to try one last time before calling out the RAC - and it started and ran (literally purred) as if nothing had been wrong with the ignition ten minutes ago.

So I shall brave it on my intrepid weekend jaunt and see what happens. If it blows up, at least I will probably still have the RAC's number in my recent-calls list on my phone Rolling Eyes


A leaking petrol tap will cause both of your symptoms - jammed engine when cranking and over-full oil level.

Pop the oil filler cap off and see if it reeks of petrol inside.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:


A leaking petrol tap will cause both of your symptoms - jammed engine when cranking and over-full oil level.

Pop the oil filler cap off and see if it reeks of petrol inside.


forgive me for being a bit dim, how does the fuel end up in the gear box and will it ruin the oil?
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
forgive me for being a bit dim, how does the fuel end up in the gear box and will it ruin the oil?


For a carb bike if you've got a situation where the tap's on overnight, the float bowl's filling up 'cos there's a fleck of grit jamming something and it happens to drain into the cylinder(s) then the petrol can easily seep past the rings and contaminate the oil.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
Pete. wrote:


A leaking petrol tap will cause both of your symptoms - jammed engine when cranking and over-full oil level.

Pop the oil filler cap off and see if it reeks of petrol inside.


forgive me for being a bit dim, how does the fuel end up in the gear box and will it ruin the oil?


Yes it ruins the oil.

Fuel can get into the gearbox by over-filling the carb bowl, running down the intake port into the combustion chamber and past the piston rings. Or via the air box and crankcase breather though that is less likely.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Just so you know (and should have realised after visiting che Nobby) spanners for the snarley wont work on the suzuki and Vise versa.


My name is NOT David.

Thank you, I am aware of all those facts.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:


A leaking petrol tap will cause both of your symptoms - jammed engine when cranking and over-full oil level.

Pop the oil filler cap off and see if it reeks of petrol inside.


Thinking
Hmmm ...! When I first got it back I did wonder if petrol was leaking out. At first I suspected lack of use and the petrol had somehow "evaporated", then I suspected petrol thieves, but I remembered I had a locking petrol cap. I might have to look further into that interesting line of enquiry!
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
if you've got a situation where the tap's on

Actually that's another point I haven't checked since I got it back.

Although I always keep the Snarley with the fuel tap on, but with Reserve to spare (cos its so rubbish: 100 miles to the tank around town Rolling Eyes )

But I havent checked what position the petrol tap is in for the Suzuki, I much prefer to have that little handy spare bit of Reserve for in case I am out on my own somewhere that I don't know very well.

I guess if its leaking, there ain't gonna be no reserve anyway! Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 18 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:

Fuel can get into the gearbox by over-filling the carb bowl, running down the intake port into the combustion chamber and past the piston rings. Or via the air box and crankcase breather though that is less likely.


That's all a bit much for me to comprehend.
I might have to take something apart to understand all that Laughing
But its useful to know.

Perhaps I should get a cheap chuckabout bike to actually strip down and put back together so I know what the actual fuck... Thinking That'll annoy the neighbours. Laughing

Don't wanna risk stripping down the Snarley or the Suzuki cos I like them both too much to fuck up in the early stages. ALSO No point trying to put the super tenere back together, its like a jigsaw puzzle and is now 15 years sat rusting in the shed ... but I could afford a cheapshit Chinesey bike to unpick and look at ... Thinking
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PostPosted: 06:09 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:

That's all a bit much for me to comprehend.
I might have to take something apart to understand all that Laughing
But its useful to know.

It's not that hard to understand; if the float valve is leaking (damaged float, damaged valve, or debris between the valve and seat) fuel will flow into the engine by the same path that it flows when the engine is running. Fuel flows downhill. Tank at the top, crankcase at the bottom, fuel will eventually find its way to the crankcase where it will mix with your engine oil and degrade its lubricating properties. Your Harley has an oil tank on the right side of the bike. If you smell fuel in the oil, you know you have a problem. The good part about the Harley lubrication system (it is called dry sump) is that the transmission does not share oil with the engine, so the part about fuel in the gearbox oil doesn't apply to your Sportster.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 19 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

If fuel is in the oil, open the filler hole and give it a little sniff. You'll know almost instantly.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday... Chain adjustment, levels and pressure checks then 125 mile round trip to Malvern, Tewkesbury, Gloucester and Chepstow. Lovely roads. Celebrating that Mod1 pass.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pushed it 100 yards along the A13 to the petrol station Rolling Eyes

Thought it looked a bit ... close to the end of the red in Empty ... but I guessed it might make it to the petrol station so I could fill it up.

Got about 200 yards from my house, and it conked out at the traffic lights on the sliproad to the A13 Laughing Brick Wall

Reckon that leaking petrol tap might actually be a thing Thinking
Cos I've not ridden it since Diamond Day (first weekend of July)

Trying to remember when I last put petrol in it, though ... Laughing
Might have been the weekend before Laughing

But you'd think ... A13 - Ace Caff - A13 - Ace Caff - A13 - its not gonna use up a tank of petrol, is it. (is it?)

Maybe its a thirsty little bugger.
I have been, erm, caning it ... Thinking

Its so eminently cane-able Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also ... same journey ... survived an incident with a car doing a U-ey on me along The Highway on the way home.

Stayed upright, so I swore the fuck out of the car that was racing away probably unwittingly back towards Tower Bridge - so maybe I have a couple of bruised toes... taken some paracetamol, feeling no pain right now. Bike seems okay, nothing knocked off.

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PostPosted: 20:37 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't mind but it caused me to lose the bugger on the big KTM that I had been playing tag with since Hyde Park Corner Wink
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I replaced the cush drive on the R1 but it hasn’t stopped the chain from slapping heavily in slow manoeuvres. Quite vibey too. The clutch plates are all new too so now I’m thinking it’s a worn chain, despite the rear sprocket (at least) looking ok and it passing an MOT last week. 34k miles so obvious perhaps, although I’m normally easy on chains and tyres. I’ve tried adjusting the chain tension to no avail. I can pull the link maybe an eighth of an inch off the back of the rear sprocket. Disappointed, I thought I’d nailed this problem. Would a knackered shock make the chain slap? I think it’s good but worth considering.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 20 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

surely youd notice if the shock was knackered when you rode bike?
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