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Posted: 23:16 - 10 Jul 2023 Post subject: Re: Moving from a 125cc to 500cc+ |
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iatm8701 wrote: | Hi All,
After procrastinating for over a decade of wanting to ride I have finally made it my goal to go ahead and get it done.
I have loved bikes since I was in my teens but never quite got round to doing it or became to concerned that I would push the limits and get myself into a world of pain.
I am now 38 years old and using a 125cc (with Ls) and about to take a lesson on a 125cc. I know its a good bike to learn on and i am enjoying it more and more as I use the full rev range but I can't help but feel it being bloody slow.
I am used to fast cars, BMW M6, M3, porsches, etc which no stranger to quick acceleration and stability too.
How have people felt or thought when they moved off the 125cc to something like a 500-700cc bike. How has the enjoyment been or the fear factor changed? Any thoughts would be most welcome
Thanks
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about 10 years ago i was in the same boat (but without the fast car thing) - I ran a 125 for a year or more and got quite acclimatised to riding motorised two wheels that way.
i had this weird mindset that i somehow concocted - which went like this: I've got to learn to ride well slowly before I can ever ride well fast. I'm really not sure there's much truth in that, but it was kind of my approach to riding. So I used to practice a lot of Mod 1 stuff on my 125s - and was able to do it quite well after a bit, and with markedly foreshortened dimensions as well. I also used to ride into town and tackle traffic and filtering, too. It wasn't like I could ride fast even if i wanted to though! But I do sort of think all that crap helped me to improve - and did translate to bigger bike stuff as well, in some ways.
Anyway, after a year or so, I got a 500 twin and spent 4 or 5 years on that. For the last year or more I was using a lot of its power at certain times when i was out. It was still kind of shit, though. Eventually i got a 900 il4 and gradually began to use what it had to offer. It took me a few years to become comfy about ragging the bastard, but yeah, it was good fun. The earlier slow stuff from the 125 days definitely helped for town work - i rarely dabbed and almost always managed to keep rolling when others had halted. So i was quicker off the line, and more relaxed when filtering tight stuff. I'm not sure there was much pay off when I was up beyond second gear though. The 125 slow focus did help with my green laning on my 4t 250 though. But i don't do trf stuff any more - too knackering, tbh. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
Mobylette Type 50 ---> Raleigh Grifter ---> Neval Minsk 125 |
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Posted: 09:50 - 11 Jul 2023 Post subject: Re: Moving from a 125cc to 500cc+ |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | iatm8701 wrote: | Anyway I appreciate the rest of your information. What about stability or any other factory I am not aware of? I guess a good example would be a Mercedes A class compared to an S class, an S class will feel more plus, more stable at high speeds etc. |
In all honesty just get a bike that you like mate, go to some dealers and get a sit on some, maybe get some test rides in too. Find out what feels nicest under your arse and you feel most comfortable on.
Anything between 600 and 900 is going to put a load of smiles on your face and as long as your careful you won't yeet yourself into oblivion. Having jumped on a litre bike, they are quite a bit more than my 650 was but not so dramatically different that I would stay away from them.
Personally I am glad I got a shagged old 650 as my first big bike cuz I've dropped the cunt a couple times and it's been knocked over while parked up by another driver. If I had bought a brand new bike and that happened to it I would be spitting venom but my bike was cheap so I don't really care that much.
EDIT: Forgot to say a benefit of having an old bike when you're a fat cunt is if you race some cunt then it's a lose-lose situation for them. If I beat them they just got beat by a fat cunt on an ancient bike. If they beat me then all they did was beat a fat cunt on an ancient bike. |
Come now.. iatm8701 seems like a nice man, apart from his misguided expensive German car fetish, and there you go cunting away in your second post to him. I realise it's the shared language of you sporran-bashing Jimmys but please, wait until he's settled in.
PS OP, what's all this talk of stability? do you mean being buffeted by lorries etc.. or something else? ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 14:47 - 11 Jul 2023 Post subject: Re: Moving from a 125cc to 500cc+ |
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iatm8701 wrote: | Hi All,
After procrastinating for over a decade of wanting to ride I have finally made it my goal to go ahead and get it done.
I have loved bikes since I was in my teens but never quite got round to doing it or became to concerned that I would push the limits and get myself into a world of pain.
I am now 38 years old and using a 125cc (with Ls) and about to take a lesson on a 125cc. I know its a good bike to learn on and i am enjoying it more and more as I use the full rev range but I can't help but feel it being bloody slow.
I am used to fast cars, BMW M6, M3, porsches, etc which no stranger to quick acceleration and stability too.
How have people felt or thought when they moved off the 125cc to something like a 500-700cc bike. How has the enjoyment been or the fear factor changed? Any thoughts would be most welcome
Thanks
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I did about 18 months on a 125, including doing mod 1&2, before getting A license through DAS.
Yes 125's are dog slow and in this country at least are generally looked down on, but I guess I'm a bit of a weirdo and actually like riding mine and have kept it for commuting and errands etc.
The school bike I did my DAS on (Suzuki Bandit) felt very different to my 125 but in a good way, and yes hugely faster but also very easy to ride and not at all lairy unless you tried to.
At national/dual carriageway speed you really notice that the bigger bikes will feel much more stable and comfortable. With a 125 unless you've got a YZF or MT125 you're basically doomed to sit in the left hand lane with the trucks and codgers with hats on. I've been told that 125's are more dangerous as you cannot accelerate out of a dodgy situation but on the other hand they also make it harder to accelerate into a dodgy situation!
Apart from the 'parking space to parking space push test', I also found the bigger bike much easier to do mod 1 on, especially the swerve test at the end. |
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Posted: 15:31 - 11 Jul 2023 Post subject: Re: Moving from a 125cc to 500cc+ |
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I always find it funny how it's not a word much used south of the border, you know it can be a term of endearment up here too? Like if there was someone you liked and were asked about them you'd say " Ah Tam? Aye, he's a good cunt". |
Ah, us east country folk tend just to use 'old boy' in a similar manner..
such as
'He's a good old boy'
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'Nah, he's just a young old boy' ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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suddenly this thread has morphed into schoolboy willy waving ____________________ current bike Yamaha Thunderace.
its old and fat, but its a damned good ride. the bikes not bad either. |
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