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adam277 Spanner Monkey
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Posted: 15:04 - 10 Jul 2023 Post subject: I want a new bike and a 125cc.. |
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Yea I dislike my R1200GSA..
I mean it is a great fucking bike, I love riding it. The torque on the thing is great I feel like I can tow a car with it haha. But I live near London so I am paranoid constantly of it getting stolen. I also rarely go above 50mph due to the traffic (yea it is a commuter )
So, I am looking for a cheap 125cc to get about with that I do not care if it gets stolen because it is well a 125cc lol.
You know a bike that you just let fall to the floor because it is not even worth the hassle of kicking the stand down.
But seriously though.. Looking for a reliable 125cc at a reasonable cost. the prices of new 125cc bikes now are a joke. Brand new CBF 125 is like £3300.... It seems the days of even getting a decent used YBR 125 for under £1000 are over as well unless you get lucky.
rants aside I am considering getting a CBF 125cc.
Heard the new ones do not even have a starter motor. But I also remember CBF's are made in India.. so what would you guys consider getting?
I am not against going used or getting a scooter. I just do not want to buy a £900 POS that I have to get work done on. ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
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Posted: 17:07 - 10 Jul 2023 Post subject: |
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I have a shitbox that I wouldnt recommend because its a chinese shitbox, but at the same time, on over 1000miles that Ive ridden it, nothing has broken all fallen off. Of course, I do know what to keep an eye on though.
I thoroughly recommend getting a 125 because....
I went riding friday night and got lost with a mate with a fireblade, there was one section that was full throttle in top gear for around 6 minutes...flipping fantastic, but never broke 70mph:-) so much fun. I think he stayed in 2nd behind me. He got bored.
the prices of the things are ridiculous though....being the cbt size it means theyre more than they should be. I couldve got a range of nicer 250's... 400's or similar for similar money instead. And in terms of being nicked, i think theyre just as desirable, but i would stay away from the scooter variants and get a thing with gears so its less of a temptation.
Im not worried if it gets scratched or dropped, and it sips fuel. As much fun as you can legally have away from a motorway. ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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Posted: 15:26 - 11 Jul 2023 Post subject: |
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I think near a big city that 125's will always be massively more costly than they should be due to the delivery app guys needing them.
On that subject, I often wonder how many actually have business use insurance seeing as most of them are provisional riders...
Edit: I just found out this does exist |
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deadly_penguin wrote: | My CBF125 (older, Indian) is fine, but I'm not sure I'd recommend it. The combination of fairing and cheese-grade fasteners makes maintenance a bit of a pain; I did the tappets the other day which, because the fairing bolts had seized and rounded and the rubber bungs had disintegrated, went from a 20 minute job to an almost 2-hour swear-fest. Going by the Haynes, the CB125F (newer, Chinese) makes it less bad by having a smaller fairing and being newer.
That said, the CBF125 is alright about town and will get good mpg - even down the motorway if you sit behind a lorry (I did New Forest to York on 2/3 of a tank the other weekend), though it's horribly uncomfortable for over an hour or two.
All in all, I'd probably get a 250 rather than a 125 - perhaps a CBF250 if you can find one in good nick. |
Not against a 250 for sure.
I think the appeal of the CBF 125 is the newer ones claim 190mpg.
prob more like 130-150mpg.
but still really good.
Considering I rarely ride the bike on A-roads for longer than 10 minutes that is fine by me.
Heck, I survived with a honda vision 110 for a year doing a 30 minute commute on a 70mph road. . ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
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adam277 wrote: | deadly_penguin wrote: | My CBF125 (older, Indian) is fine, but I'm not sure I'd recommend it. The combination of fairing and cheese-grade fasteners makes maintenance a bit of a pain; I did the tappets the other day which, because the fairing bolts had seized and rounded and the rubber bungs had disintegrated, went from a 20 minute job to an almost 2-hour swear-fest. Going by the Haynes, the CB125F (newer, Chinese) makes it less bad by having a smaller fairing and being newer.
That said, the CBF125 is alright about town and will get good mpg - even down the motorway if you sit behind a lorry (I did New Forest to York on 2/3 of a tank the other weekend), though it's horribly uncomfortable for over an hour or two.
All in all, I'd probably get a 250 rather than a 125 - perhaps a CBF250 if you can find one in good nick. |
Not against a 250 for sure.
I think the appeal of the CBF 125 is the newer ones claim 190mpg.
prob more like 130-150mpg.
but still really good.
Considering I rarely ride the bike on A-roads for longer than 10 minutes that is fine by me.
Heck, I survived with a honda vision 110 for a year doing a 30 minute commute on a 70mph road. . |
Nothing particularly wrong with a 125 and the fuel economy is great, but for much the same money you can have something with better build quality and that is nicer to ride.
For the ~1100 quid a used CBF125 will cost, you could have a 250/300 scooter, at least a month of petrol for the BMW, and fish and chips. ____________________ A spanner short of a toolbox |
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The buying new went past me at first was thinking sub grand shit box
( welcome to my world )
125 PCX or Forza would be my choice for 5 mile commute and shopping
trips, especially near that London traffic.
Cant see any advantages in a cbf other than perhaps a bit better mpg but you'll still be grabbing the clutch and tap dancing on the gear change all the time. ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
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Robby wrote: | You have a 5 mile commute?
If so, that's 10 miles a day. 50 miles a week. Allowing for holidays and such, let's say 45 weeks a year, that's 2250 miles a year of commuting.
A gallon of petrol is currently about £6.30
At 150mpg on the CBF you'll burn 15 gallons of petrol in a year commuting, costing you £97.50
At 40mpg on the BMW you'll burn 56.25 gallons of petrol, costing you £354.38.
So your saving is £257 a year. To me, that isn't worth it. Or you could go full autist on fuel costs and get one of the small electric bikes like a super soco. |
Well the beemer costs between 100-200 a year to tax. not sure how much. Insurance should probably be cheaper as well. plus servicing costs. And I'll be selling the beemer so will have a few grand in the bank.
I also sold the car so some more savings as no car tax/insurance / other crap to deal with.
Trying save the pennies where I can.
I am actually not against an electric bike but they all seem overpriced and limited to under 50mph.. plus the extra hassle of leaving it on charge for hours.
The Forza is a sexy scooter. I like it. But, London, prob more likely to be stolen.
Really glad I got rid of the car as well. I am just sick to death of traffic... In the past few years it has gotten so bad.. I would seriously use a bike when it is pissing it down with hailstorms plus snow then spend an hour doing a couple of miles.
Basically going on a massive cost cutting spree.. Where I can.. still working on the diet soda addiction.. lol. ____________________ Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
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