New EU federation state do you support it?

[Nobby the Bastard]

An EU army wouldn't mean there is more army available in Europe, it will just mean that various units of various countries will be under central control of a organisation called the EU army rather than under the control of their respective countries.

Thats basically the setup that NATO uses and as soon as Article 5 is invokes the 'EU' army will be subsumed under NATO control in exactly the same way as those self same units from various countries would have been subsumed under NATO so an EU army is largely irrelevant where Russia is concerned.
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[Val]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Where is the EU going to get the army from? It won't be a new army, it will be the armys of the countries in Europe seconded to this euro army and the EU paying the countries for their services.
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[Fat Angry Scotsman]

You see, I actually wouldn't have minded being a state in a European Federation. My business was doing better inside the European Union than it has been on the outside.

There are loads of punitive measures that the UK takes against the EU and the EU against the UK nowadays. One of the more ridiculous ones is that shipments of steel goods to Italy from the UK needs to undergo inspection to ensure it's free of radioactive contamination, which of course adds delays and fees.

The most annoying one is that test reports for products that were done in UK laboratories are not accepted in the EU anymore and ones from the EU are not accepted in the UK. Dumb as hell since they were accepted both ways until Brexit and the UK is still part of the European Co-operation for Accreditation (EA) and all the International Laboratory Accreditation Cooperation (ILAC). Means UK businesses need to pay double for testing and certification on products now. When you consider it's for a commodity product and amortise that over the cost of the product for the 3 years that the tests are valid for then your product can almost cost double what it used to just in certification costs going into them.

But hey you got your country back, the NHS get's an extra £350,000,000 a week now, brown people something something, snow flake something something little England yay!

Brexit is dogshit.
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[Val]

Trump is the best thing that has happened to Europe so far since Brexit and Putin to unite us and make the federation.

Enjoy part one and two of the analysis of why Europe does not need to buy American weapons we have better ones locally says Finnish military:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ThNMEwLF7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVaadqx01As

Let's make Europe great again!

tldr; Trump can lose 2 million jobs and $50 billion sales.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

It’s America’s industrial might that counts. Big country, lots of workers. You can choose to have a “better” tank made locally eventually, or lots of tanks quickly made in the USA.

Just reading your posts is a stretch, I’m not gonna play the videos.

[Val]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

“US cannot do what they have done WW2 because there is no industrial might anymore. Everything is bitcoins and most of Teslas are made in China.

If Europe needs war time supplies we cannot depend on supplies from US, because simply they do not have enough for them in case of WW3.”


They’d quickly ramp up production in wartime like they’ve done before. They still have the know-how even if China now make their tat. In fact they’re perhaps the only country that benefitted economically from WW2 (maybe Canada too) such that the UK’s last debt payment was as late as 2006. We should have let Europe sink.

[RhynoCZ]

[Val]

BREAKING NEWS: Merz wants German nuclear weapons as part of an independent European nuclear umbrella!

New German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on Friday:

[Polarbear]

|I don't know the rules about nuclear proliferation but i don't think those nice judges in the Hague would be happy if we gave Germany some nukes to play with. But there again, Starmer is such a lapdog he'd probably roll over to get his belly scratched by a German Chancellor.

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[Val]

Why Canada should join the EU

[Polarbear]