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When OrangeTurd aka Dictator DoucheBag will go to jail?
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing the Orange turd is going to jail

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/30/trump-trial-hush-money-verdict
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ate you an American citizen now?


(He is very unlikely to go to jail, for numerous reasons.)
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal attacks now, Val? What will your handlers think!

A lot of resources went into rigging this trial. Will it be as easy to do the same with the appeal?
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I glean from this BBC article, he can still be president even if he's in jail!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK if Trump becomes President again he can pardon himself so the whole case is ultimately futile. The gamble though is swaying independent voters (the outcome has no impact on TDS sufferers and MAGA nuts.)

One can easily imagine older, traditionalist voters put off by a felony charge but that's balanced by Black voters being more sympathetic to someone mistreated by the criminal justice system.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
AFAIK if Trump becomes President again he can pardon himself so the whole case is ultimately futile. The gamble though is swaying independent voters (the outcome has no impact on TDS sufferers and MAGA nuts.)



He can pardon himself for federal crimes. This isn't federal but state. He's completely impotent against state convictions.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
He can pardon himself for federal crimes. This isn't federal but state. He's completely impotent against state convictions.


Now I'm picturing that prison scene in Goodfellas Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure Trump doesn't even knnow what garlic is. He's not really kown for a having the palette of a connoisseur.

He thinks the height of sophistication is ketchup AND mustard and diet coke.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay...

Try picturing Trump in an orange prison jumpsuit Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 31 May 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
From what I glean from this BBC article, he can still be president even if he's in jail!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o


Yup, although thanks to the plethora of appeals courts he has at his disposal the best we can hope for is a felon out on bail as president.

Should appeals go all the way to the Supreme Court the timeline is such that, at his age, he's likely to be pushing up daisies before it's resolved.
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PostPosted: 07:21 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

A convicted felon in charge of a country - at least it'd be honest .....
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
From what I glean from this BBC article, he can still be president even if he's in jail!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgg4kv0682o


It's in the murican constipation.
One only has to be born in murica to be president.

I thought felons were excluded but apparently not.
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleFester wrote:
A convicted felon in charge of a country - at least it'd be honest .....


Like in the Terry Pratchett books where when the country of XXXX elects a prime minister, he is pre-emtively jailed for the duration of his term of office.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
UncleFester wrote:
A convicted felon in charge of a country - at least it'd be honest .....


Like in the Terry Pratchett books where when the country of XXXX elects a prime minister, he is pre-emtively jailed for the duration of his term of office.


It's so long ago I read that I'd forgotten...
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:29 - 01 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too right. All the shit they've done in the world - including dropping nuclear bombs on civvies! and they get undone by a pair of tits.

*edit - A decent pair mind you.
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personal attacks now, Val? What will your handlers think!

A lot of resources went into rigging this trial. Will it be as easy to do the same with the appeal?


Appeal on what basis? That he’s diapers where full during the crime Laughing

Jimmy Kimmel: after seven weeks of trial the court room is empty and Trumps diapers are full Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you'd actually followed the trial you might be able to take a guess... but that's not what you've been paid to do Neutral

For the benefit of the adults in the room: the lawyer 'Tubers are looking at the unusual directions given by the judge to the jury.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was unusual about the directions? The only thi g that has been declared as contentious (don't have to agree what the crime that was covered up was) isn't really contentious because he's not being convicted of.that crime. As usual half-wits on the internet have made up.the interpretation that they can convict on a hung jury which is really not what he said at all.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

The directions huh?

This is from CNN...

"Jury's request to re-hear instructions “underscores the craziness" of not providing them, legal analyst says

Jurors' request to re-hear the judge's jury instructions indicates that the instructions “were way too much for any human being to absorb and make sense of,” CNN legal analyst Elie Honig said.

While it’s unusual for juries to want to hear the whole set of instructions again, it is common for them to come back with a request to hear a much more specific part of instructions, Honig explained.

But ultimately, this jury request “underscores the craziness of not sending the jury instructions back," Honig said.

Judge Juan Merchan went through “50-something pages of legal instructions” this morning, Honig noted, adding that while most federal judges will send the actual document with the jury as it deliberates, New York State courts forbid this practice.

"It’s the way that New York State courts do it. They are obstinate, they are stuck in the past, they are making life difficult for the jury," Honig added."
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If even partisan outlets are leary of the trial something's gone horribly wrong. Given no one's been audacious enough to charge a President previously, one would expect the case to be serious, clear and water-tight. Not some dog and pony show over a victimless crime.

If involvement with hookers and pr0n stars is enough to count as a felony what then for invading counties for made-up reasons or drone-striking weddings?
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
If you'd actually followed the trial you might be able to take a guess... but that's not what you've been paid to do Neutral

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Easy-X wrote:


If involvement with hookers and pr0n stars is enough to count as a felony what then for invading counties for made-up reasons or drone-striking weddings?


I would have assumed that someone chastising another for commenting on a case they haven't been following would have known that the felony has nothing to do with hookers or porn stars.

For those who haven't been following the case too closely may I point out that (in New York state) paying off your fuckbuddies is perfectly legal, falsification of your business records is a crime but not a felony. The felony comes about because the falsification of those records were for the purpose of committing a different crime, that of misleading the voting public.

And because I haven't been following the case closely I can't help with determining how one politician's misleading of the general voting public differs from that of any other.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
The directions huh?

This is from CNN...

"Jury's request to re-hear instructions “underscores the craziness" of not providing them, legal analyst says

Jurors' request to re-hear the judge's jury instructions indicates that the instructions “were way too much for any human being to absorb and make sense of,” CNN legal analyst Elie Honig said.

While it’s unusual for juries to want to hear the whole set of instructions again, it is common for them to come back with a request to hear a much more specific part of instructions, Honig explained.

But ultimately, this jury request “underscores the craziness of not sending the jury instructions back," Honig said.

Judge Juan Merchan went through “50-something pages of legal instructions” this morning, Honig noted, adding that while most federal judges will send the actual document with the jury as it deliberates, New York State courts forbid this practice.

"It’s the way that New York State courts do it. They are obstinate, they are stuck in the past, they are making life difficult for the jury," Honig added."


Which is the case for any trial in the state of New York. Stop moaning about your diapers buddy its hilarious Laughing

He is not Jesus or special. And his speach after the verdict is not helping him.

Any other convicted felon will suffer the consequences in harsher sentencing trying to denigrate the jury and the court.

Why Trump should be special? Clearly not showing contrition.

Well send him to jail. That will teach him Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 02 Jun 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val has agreed with me. I feel somewhat dirty but not in a good, sexy way....
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