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				| David Lammy          It's going to be a clown show, Angela Rayner deputy PM
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				| A little talked about condemnation of the incoming Labour government's mandate: Bootle (Merseyside)
 Best win by Labour with >20,000 vote margin, crikey! But this conceals a drop in voters by 10%. And where did these voters go? Reform, Greens and Workers Party of Britain.
 
 Rejection of the Uniparty is rising.
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				| So, a few months into Starmers Labour government they have agreed a pay deal with doctors, nurses, teachers and now train strikers.
 Train strikes near end as union and government agree deal
 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9rxdrj713o
 
 I'll leave you all to read what Labour have coughed up to end the strikes but a few questions about it.
 
 Is it that Labour have just gone in to end the strikes whatever the cost? Basically given what the unions wanted. Doctors a really big pay rise, public sector workers what that commission reccommended. Train drivers big back pay rises.
 
 Is it that unions will deal with Labour more easily than the tories  for whatever reason?
 
 Have they done ok, the right thing or are the floodgates going to open for more stupidly high pay deals? I mean, they say the tories left a big hole but they have nade it a damn sight bigger with these pay deals, albeit partially filled by taking the winter heating allowance from pensioners
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 I think they made it too easy for the unions and that will come back to bite them when other public sector workers demand comparable pay rises.
 
 There is also this stupid assumption that public and private sector workers wages should be comparable. If the private sector can afford big pay rises and give them to their workers it means those workers have earned the company that money so fine. But that doesn't mean the public sector has spare money to throw around and if, like as at the present time, money is tight, tough, you dont get a payrise. There are of course other perks being a public sector worker, your company (HMGB) is unlikely to go bust. Your pensions are pretty safe ect. so it's never all bad.
 
 Anyway. I wonder where the next, 'blame the tories, but your ***tax is going to have to go up' will hit, cause I can't see it not happening and if they are going to do it, they'll want to do it early on in thier term of office.
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        |  | Old Thread Alert! 
 The last post was made 1 year, 76 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
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