Shed Roof Replacement.. How Much?

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just ballpark...

The bike shed roof needs replacing, it is not leaking in but the felt is cracking in a small area. I have repaired it temporarily with the paint on repair stuff, the horrible one seemingly full of dog hairs.

It is a lightly sloping plywood and felt construction on a wooden frame with 3 joists at 3ft centres. The sheets are nailed to the top of the frame. The structure itself is cinder block.

For roofing area purposes, the roof would likely be 10ft by 11ft. I want all new sterling boards and heavy duty felt

Have a bloke coming round to look on Friday and already had a quote from a different guy off checkatrade, based on about 15 pics taken of the roof inside, out and from above.

Not a great way to quote in my book.

He came back with a price of £1750. When I picked myself up off the floor, he explained again... And a skip to remove the rubbish will be £400...

I explained I was willing to cut the plywood sheet up with my circular saw and take it all to the tip...

Oh. Well if you get rid of the rubbish and pay cash. I will do it for £1250. Alarm bells seriously ringing..
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Can you do the area in SI units? I don't like living in the past.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Can you not just replace the felt?
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[rpsmith79]

Go to Wickes/B&Q/Homebase, buy some marine ply, saw & felt

Do It Yourself, would cost under 200 notes

It's really not that difficult
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[doggone]

Why not use this sort of metal sheeting which strengthens the whole thing up and will last longer than the shed under it.
Use tech screws with rubber washer in bottom of channel to fix.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cheap-Steel-Box-Profile-32-1000-Roofing-Sheets-Cut-to-the-length-you-require-PVC-/155934608437

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[Polarbear]

We all want it done for nowt don't we. I got a quote for the garden, decking ripped up, flattened, slabs laid etc. Shed base put in. Came to £4000 mates rates with my sister in laws sons firm.

I wrote to garden rescue but they didnt reply.
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Thanks everyone. The entire shed was major renovated for £1500 11 years ago. I guess the price of materials and labour has gone up a bit since then. I was thinking £1k, but hoping for £8- 900 .

I will see what the new bloke has to say. At least he will have eyes on the job.

I have a leaning towards him anyway, he only started out on his own this year and probably needs help to get established.
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[BanditsHigh]

And people wonder why I do things myself ... £1750 + £400 for a skip ... aye right!!

My very very quick estimate ...

1) Four sheets of 8'x4'x18mm OSB ... £108 (B&Q £27 a sheet)
2) Some screws and nails ... £20 (at stupid prices)
3) Panel saw ... £7 (Screwfix)
4) Hammer ... £5 (Screwfix)
5) Screwdriver set ... £9 (Screwfix)
6) Heavy-Duty Green Polyester Shed Roofing Felt (10m) ... £55 (B&Q)

For the above that's £204 ... say another £50 for delivery of OSB and round it up (to nearest 100) would be £300 ... you'd need to take the rubbish to the dump of course.

If you'd been near me I'd have done it for you no problem ... done in well under a day ... even with a fecked heart!

All the best ... Barry

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Yeah. Me too at one time. Problem is that when I finished pissing about with 300 tonne cranes and 100 tonne dumper trucks ect, I have no longer got a rism of energy left when I get home.
Getting far too old for the job.

My old mentor, Harold said when I was a keen as mustard apprentice "enjoy it while you can lad, this job turns young men into old men and old men into corpses".


Wise words.
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[BanditsHigh]

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Update. The new lad came and inspected the job. He said exactly the same as the other guy as to what is required.

As he probed, it turns out the roof was far worse than first thought.

New 18mm sterling board, under felt, lead flashing and the highest grade roofing felt.
He said he could do it in the day, so the VFR can just sit outside under her dustcover and a tarp. Saves manhandling her into the conservatory to join the other two.
With my luck the viffer would topple, take out the other two, and the entire shebang exit left through a conservatory window.

His price was the same as the other quote, but if I was prepared to get rid of my own rubbish he would do it for £1150. I guess this is the going rate.

He has worked for years with another company and just started out on his own this year. I am always ready to help a new start up, so he has the job.

I threw in cleaning out the gutters too, for £60 to pay for his fuel.

Thanks for your insights. Much appreciated.

Offending shed. You can see the roof buckling upwards.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53726323632_b70374b89d_h.jpg
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[Islander]

I'd have replaced the OSB with 18mm sheets and then covered them with EDPM rubber. It'd outlast you if it's done properly and it's a piece of piss to lay and finish.

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All done and dusted. We cut up the remains of the roof and took it to the tip today.

My word, 50% of the boards were seriously delaminated. What a mess. It was more like taking strips of tree bark to the tip than plywood boards. I had no idea it was so far gone.

The lads said the original was ok for a pitched roof timber shed, but was completely wrong for a block or brick structure with a slightly sloping pent? roof. It was too light, the wrong type felt and had no underlay at all.
Good set of lads, very keen to showcase their work.

They had three layers of material in total, two underlay types, some type of thin membrane, another waterproof layer and grade 30 ( whatever that means), torch on felt. The flame thrower they used was a beast, it sounded like a jet engine in afterburner.
They were confident that it would last a minimum of 20 years and expected to last between 25 to 30 years.

I did ask about rubber roofing and both roofing firms said I would be wasting my money. They often get called in to re felt over the top of punctured edpm roofs.
Much like wet belts in car engines, the real world results offer less than the hype. Of course I could have had it if I wanted.

Not my comment, I am no expert, just relaying what I was told.

Edit. They cleaned the gutters too. We had new sofits and gutters back in 2020 and I figured they would be full of junk by now, but they said they were clean.
Only got a third of a bucket of moss in total from front and back.

At least I know we are good for another five years.
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[Islander]

I'm not sure how EDPM would manage to be punctured if it's fitted properly. I've got two sheds roofed with shed grade stuff and they've never given me any problems. It's incredibly tough stuff.

There's a heavier grade as well that's suitable for houses. Both types have a life of over 50 years.

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[Islander]

That's why I specified properly fitted. EDPM should be left loose fitted for a time to allow the folds to relax, glued down over the entire area, and rolled down flat. If that's done it shouldn't be able to move or lift in the wind at all. Both of my EDPM roofs are solid (I live on Orkney which has a lot of wind) and the edges aren't sharp but run over CLS timber which has a rounded edge.

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[Islander]

[Easy-X]

I suppose if you see all your structures reduced to matchwood every few years you build to a different standard
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