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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 20 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point I'd be tempted to try the original float valves because they probably seat better.
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garacs
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 20 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
At this point I'd be tempted to try the original float valves because they probably seat better.


I removed the bowl on the carb hat was leaking, to find some strange black goop....

Cleaning again.... and I will replace the old float valves, as you suggest...
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 21 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a skim over this thread, I have a few thoughts:

1. The quality of new parts is hit and miss. Use original stuff where possible, only replace it with new if you know the original parts have a problem.

2. Somewhere in your fuel system there must be a significant amount of crap, because you keep finding more filth in the carbs. My money is on the tank. They're a pain to get really clean.

3. Old, stiff inlet rubbers can be made soft and pliable by soaking them overnight in a 50/50 mixture of wintergreen oil and rubbing alcohol. I keep my mix in an old jar on a high shelf. It makes everything smell minty.

4. All of this stuff with tiny changes in carb settings and trying to read spark plugs that all look perfect - this feels like chasing ghosts. It should run fairly well even with the fuel system being well off - my old CB250RS ran pretty well with a gaping hole in the carb rubber, between engine and carb. I would be concentrating on hunting down the mysterious dirt and sludge in the fuel system.
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garacs
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 21 Aug 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
From a skim over this thread, I have a few thoughts:

1. The quality of new parts is hit and miss. Use original stuff where possible, only replace it with new if you know the original parts have a problem.

2. Somewhere in your fuel system there must be a significant amount of crap, because you keep finding more filth in the carbs. My money is on the tank. They're a pain to get really clean.

3. Old, stiff inlet rubbers can be made soft and pliable by soaking them overnight in a 50/50 mixture of wintergreen oil and rubbing alcohol. I keep my mix in an old jar on a high shelf. It makes everything smell minty.

4. All of this stuff with tiny changes in carb settings and trying to read spark plugs that all look perfect - this feels like chasing ghosts. It should run fairly well even with the fuel system being well off - my old CB250RS ran pretty well with a gaping hole in the carb rubber, between engine and carb. I would be concentrating on hunting down the mysterious dirt and sludge in the fuel system.


Thanks for the tips, really appreciated.. I am also feeling that I am running down the rabbit hole...

So I decided to disassemble the carbs, redo a complete cleaning and see what happens.

As per the tank: yes there are still some rust particles and what not inside, really hard to remove everything. Yet I do have a fuel filter right after the tank and before the carbs. Some debris got caught, but some evidently not.

I am using an external fuel tank for the moment, just haning on top of the carbs that are fit on a stand (not on the bike). I guess when I emptied the fuel tank into this external tank, some rust got transferred. Mind you: the filter is still before the carbs...
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