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PostPosted: 00:36 - 03 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The timing of the attack was apparently designed to minimise any civvy casualities at those 3 installations.


I'm obviously misread this. Are you implying the Iranians care about civilian casualties?!
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 03 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm obviously misread this. Are you implying the Iranians care about civilian casualties?!


Was their own words but I think they care more about the magnitude of the Israeli response and global condemnation.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 03 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iranians with the moral high ground Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 10 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that the Israelis are taking pot shots at UN peacekeepers. That'll end well...
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 10 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It seems that the Israelis are taking pot shots at UN peacekeepers. That'll end well...


Well if they kill them they'll just get added to a long list of murdered UN staff. Nothing will get done.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 10 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Italians are quite pissed as it's their people.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 10 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The Italians are quite pissed as it's their people.


What a mistaka to maka.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 11 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're in a warzone, you get killed, hardly surprising.

"But! But! I was wearing a blue helmet!"

Same line of logic as a biker waking up in hospital protesting it was his right-of-way Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 11 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The Italians are quite pissed as it's their people.


Indonesians and Sri Lankans now. Crazy Zios are just shooting at everything.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 11 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a bit tin foil hattish but I wonder if Israel is trying to push for an all out war with certainly Iran. Trying to get them to do something that gives them the excuse they need. If it happens they get to destroy Iranian nuclear plants once and for all and it would drag America in on their side whoever is in power.

To some extent I can see their point. Bomb their enemies back to the dark ages and they won't have to worry about them for some generations to come. Otherwise they will always be looking over their shoulder for the next Hamas style attack.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 11 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe a bit tin foil hattish but I wonder if Israel is trying to push for an all out war with certainly Iran. Trying to get them to do something that gives them the excuse they need. If it happens they get to destroy Iranian nuclear plants once and for all and it would drag America in on their side whoever is in power.

Not tin foil hattish at all, they can see their support will die out with the Boomer Christians in the US, and seem to be pushing for an end game.

I think if Trump's elected they'll (end Ukraine and) fully back Israel, I could be wrong but what's happening now seems too strategic to just be the usual flare-up in the region.

Biden like Obama doesn't like Netanyahu and Kamala Harris seems lukewarm on him.

"That son of a bitch, Bibi Netanyahu, he's a bad guy,” - Joe Biden ‘called Netanyahu a bad guy’ in explicit rant

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To some extent I can see their point. Bomb their enemies back to the dark ages and they won't have to worry about them for some generations to come. Otherwise they will always be looking over their shoulder for the next Hamas style attack.

Well it's a 20-30 year strategy at this point to take out their enemies in the region.

The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. - Ari Shavit Apr 3, 2003


Here's (the then former Israeli PM) Netanyahu testifying to congress in 2002: https://youtu.be/4AkcI-ncUpE?feature=shared&t=4200

"Obviously we would like to see a regime change at least I would in Iran just as I would like to see in Iraq"

"It's not a question of whether Iraq's regime should be taken out but when should it be taken out"

"It's not a question of whether you'd like to see a regime change in Iran but how to achieve it"
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 17 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yahya Sinwar, leader of Hamas, killed by Israeli forces

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PostPosted: 23:51 - 17 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Israel certainly beheading the snake.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 18 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If what they are doing is beheading the snake Id hate to see a indiscriminate attack by them.
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 18 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
If what they are doing is beheading the snake Id hate to see a indiscriminate attack by them.


That would be like what the Americans did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima and we did to Dresden, bomb it off the face of the earth. They are no where near that (yet).
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 18 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK they stumbled across him while out on patrol so not even a surgical* strike was required.

*The military definition of "surgical" being amputation for the treatment of bullet wounds Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 20 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
If what they are doing is beheading the snake Id hate to see a indiscriminate attack by them.


That would be like what the Americans did to Nagasaki and Hiroshima and we did to Dresden, bomb it off the face of the earth. They are no where near that (yet).

Not sure about that one...

Gaza City:
https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/6526afcbfd9231ee11f583f8/master/w_2240,c_limit/vf1023%20gaza%20001.jpg

Dresden:
https://assets.editorial.aetnd.com/uploads/2009/11/dresden-bombing-gettyimages-514700324.jpg

(German bombing of) Rotterdam:
https://dirkdeklein.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/maxresdefault__1478863881_20910.jpg?w=700&h=393
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 20 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:


IDF: "It was like this when we found it!"
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now they are shooting at the French.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now they are shooting at the French.


Considering our track record with the French, I don't think we can throw too many stones. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now they are shooting at the French.


Positive news coverage for a change Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

have the French raised their white flag yet?
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PostPosted: 03:04 - 26 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course this inst going to go down well with the left but hopefully Israel will nuke Iran back to the dark ages.

Actually, thinking about it, they are already in the dark ages. A regime change from a good kicking might bring them back to a decent place.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 26 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're told the Iranian people are just waiting to be saved. Is this the same sort propaganda Putin was fed about how welcoming the Ukrainian people would be after freeing them from the Nazi dictatorship?

I've met a few Iranians (prior to the Invasions of the Sea Peoples) and they're usually quite colourful characters, as if after escaping they're over compensating somewhat. They also refer to themselves as "Persian" to create even more distance.

The important thing would be who frees them. Anyone from the Middle East - including Israel - would just get them back on their feet and leave them to it. Nato, on the other hand, would just repeat the "hand in the cookie jar" errors of Afghanistan. Fat government contracts issued to US companies for rebuilding and a load of nonsense about queers and equality. Expect the country to fall back to religious extremism once the Americans leave.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 26 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, thinking about it, they are already in the dark ages. A regime change from a good kicking might bring them back to a decent place.


Still feels like the Dark ages. This is all just the latest crusade. Israel are a western colony holding Jerusalem (european names, european/american accents). The Arabs are disunited and lacking leadership so cant do anything about it. Might take them 100 years to get themselves together. Or as long as the US keep using its military and economic might to keep them divided.
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