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struan80
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 06 Oct 2024    Post subject: Scotoiler alternative Reply with quote

I'm a miserable Scotsman and don't want to pay over the odds for a branded chain oiling device.

Can anyone recommend something less expensive that does as good a job? I don't care if it's Chinese, even they could engineer a vacuum operated device. although this device would be nice to have but way out of my price range.

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/46354
Also, I'm thinking of an alternative oil I would guess any oil with a similar viscosity to 'Scotoil' would do.

Never had a scotoiler before.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 06 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using cheap chainsaw blade oil in mine for the last decade.
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panrider_uk
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 06 Oct 2024    Post subject: Re: Scotoiler alternative Reply with quote

struan80 wrote:
I'm a miserable Scotsman and don't want to pay over the odds for a branded chain oiling device.

Can anyone recommend something less expensive that does as good a job? I don't care if it's Chinese, even they could engineer a vacuum operated device. although this device would be nice to have but way out of my price range.

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/46354
Also, I'm thinking of an alternative oil I would guess any oil with a similar viscosity to 'Scotoil' would do.

Never had a scotoiler before.

Thanks


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PostPosted: 20:20 - 06 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a mate making one based on a hamster drinking bottle attached to a tube with a valve on it. The little ball bearings seal it when the bike is stationary but allow oil flow when it's bouncing about.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 07 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we’re to assume that periodic, random drops of oil on a moving chain are a good approach then a quick brush over the static lower rung of the chain once a month ought to be adequate too, the expectation being it will move round the full length of the chain.

I suspect Scotolier converts had previously been using aerosols so it’s the use of gear oil that is a revelation, not the well-made but ultimately Heath-Robinson device. Cable ties round the swing-arm to dangle a dropper somewhere above a moving chain, no thanks.

They’re also the types to enthuse about protectorants like AC-50 but wash the bike regularly and reapply, missing the point.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 07 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use chainsaw oil and not.gear oil. Its sticky like the aerosol ones.

It's about lubing the interface between the chain and sprocket, not the chain.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 07 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


It's about lubing the interface between the chain and sprocket, not the chain.


And yet, if you don't oil the chain, the links seize.
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UncleFester
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PostPosted: 04:46 - 08 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Cable ties round the swing-arm to dangle a dropper somewhere above a moving chain, no thanks.

They’re also the types to enthuse about protectorants like AC-50 but wash the bike regularly and reapply, missing the point.


The 'dangly dropper' bolts to one of the rear bobbins threads on mine and the pipe that feeds it runs along the top of the swing arm under the plastic protective shroud that sits there. Admittedly there is a cable tie or 3 involved but that's small change to pay for an almost zero maintenance chain.

In 15k miles, that chain has needed 2 adjustments - it does get an annual clean before i put the bike away for winter as well as a wash for the bike but that's more about storing it clean than necessity. ACF50? What's that Mr. Green

If i was riding all year round because i had to then i'd get something with a shaft drive.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear you on wanting to save some cash! I’ve used a basic hand-pump oil can before, and it did a solid job without costing a fortune. For chain oil, I’ve found that any decent motorcycle chain lube with a similar viscosity to Scotoil works just fine. It’s all about keeping that chain running smoothly without spending a ton.
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panrider_uk
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 21 Oct 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike went in for its first service today so I asked the service desk about them (Scottoiler).

They said they sell them but in their opinion the electric ones were pretty rubbish compared to the vacuum ones.
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