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M.C
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 03 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
I kinda resent that social media debates are news stories now.

So Jess Philips who was appointed Minister for 'Safeguarding and Violence Against Women and Girls', isn't particularity interested in women and young girls being sexually abused in Oldham?
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 03 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
"She's minister for what-now?" Minister for Safeguarding a 700 vote majority.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Choirboy Axel's changed his pleas from dindunuffin to diddufuckinloads:-


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/20/13/94295911-14304719-image-m-35_1737380653617.jpg


Cowardly Little Bastard Belatedly Puts His Hands Up.....
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
It says in that article he will be sentenced on Thursday. Surely not? They haven't had a trial yet.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
He pled guilty. There is absolutely no reason to have a trial.

The trial is to decide if he is guilty or not. It's quite a simple principle and has been the case for hundreds of years.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
He pled guilty. There is absolutely no reason to have a trial.

The trial is to decide if he is guilty or not. It's quite a simple principle and has been the case for hundreds of years.


Really? No trial if you plead guilty? Well, you learn something new every day. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Polarbear wrote:
It says in that article he will be sentenced on Thursday.

I doubt that that will happen.
There will be so many reasons and excuses to make up between now and then that The Judge won't have time to sift through them all and will almost certainly have to defer sentencing to a later date.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are we permitted to state the obvious yet? Even before the public were allowed to know about the ricin and the Al Qaeda manual, in a period when the security services knew Islamic terrorists were targetting Taylor Swift concerts (most notably Vienna, thankfully thwarted) this guy with no connections to a children’s dance school deliberately sought out the Swift-themed class and…. Hang on, there’s someone at the door…
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
It seems he just has a fascination with violence and has no real affiliation with any political or religious group.

But you want him to be a mussie, don't you, despite the fact that he is heavily autistic, had documentation relating to the IRA amongst others and had been expelled for displaying extreme violence at about 13.

There is something massively wrong with him that isn't something that can be treated so the only suitable place for him is prison.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Raffles wrote:
Cowardly Little Bastard Belatedly Puts His Hands Up.....

"The son of a refugee from Rwanda, who was born in the UK, also pleaded guilty to possession of a knife on the day of the attack, production of a biological toxin - ricin - on or before July 29, and possession of information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing to commit an act of terrorism.

The terrorism offence Rudakubana admitted relates to a PDF file entitled 'Military Studies In The Jihad Against The Tyrants, The Al Qaeda Training Manual', which he is said to have possessed between August 29, 2021 and July 30 last year."

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Military+Studies+In+The+Jihad+Against+The+Tyrants%2C+The+Al+Qaeda+Training+Manual+pdf
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqx949jzjlyo

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He also pleaded guilty to a range of charges including the attempted murders of eight children and two adults, producing a biological toxin, ricin, and the possession of an al-Qaeda training manual - a terror offence.

Despite this his case has never been treated as terror-related by police as he did not appear to follow an ideology, such as Islamism or racial hatred, and instead appeared to be motivated by an interest in extreme violence.

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PostPosted: 21:59 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It seems he just has a fascination with violence and has no real affiliation with any political or religious group.

But you want him to be a mussie, don't you,


What I want, is him, his parents and every other useless twat this country's masters seem to want to invite in to turn it into even more of a shithole it already is not to have come here.

Residents of a quiet close in Cardiff said the boy's parents were 'nice, quiet people struggling to make a living after coming from Rwanda'.

Struggling to make a living were they? So absolutely no use to Britain. Why were they even allowed into Britain? We weren't the colonial power there, Belgium was, so there isn't even that excuse for having them here.

You know why Trump got re elected despite being an orange ape with questionable morals? He puts America first, and everyone else can take a flying f**k. Oh for us having politicians who would do the same.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don’t want him to “be a mussie”, I have friends who are of that religion. What I want is for the obvious truth about Islamic extremism to be openly spoken about and not swept under the carpet for fear of offending someone. You do understand that questioning a religion isn’t as bad as murdering children?
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 20 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
You do understand that questioning a religion isn’t as bad as murdering children?


You're imposing your White Western Privilege on the situation. You are specifically not allowed to question Islam as Mohammed, blessed be his name, is His final prophet and the Qur'an His final word. The blood sacrifice of kafir children is a mere step on the path that Allah has laid out for true believers.

You say you have Muslim friends. I say they're either not true Muslims or not true friends.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 21 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Are we permitted to state the obvious yet? Even before the public were allowed to know about the ricin and the Al Qaeda manual, in a period when the security services knew Islamic terrorists were targetting Taylor Swift concerts (most notably Vienna, thankfully thwarted) this guy with no connections to a children’s dance school deliberately sought out the Swift-themed class and…. Hang on, there’s someone at the door…
Police

It was rumoured a while ago that Tommy Robinson, who was in Belmarsh prison with Axel Rudafbljsgbl (cos equally serious crimes...) said he was attending the mosque there.

He could well be lying to keep people on the counter-jihad plantation, but with SkyNews still going with the Gareth from the Valleys nonsense, it definitely feels like a really shit attempt at narrative control.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 21 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
still going with the Gareth from the Valleys nonsense,

It’s a hotbed of indignant, sweary men, apparently. I imagine the Director General will have been disappointed with the 1 year investment bearing in mind all the “undercover investigative reporter” came back with was tales of loudmouth bravado.
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The group cannot be banned under current legislation as they do not advocate terrorism but Dame Sara, the UK's first Counter-Extremism Commissioner, feels they are "creating a climate conducive to terrorism".

Edit: forgot to add the link.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8xykr5v95o

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PostPosted: 18:11 - 21 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
We are at a bizarre point in time when you can talk yourself into a lengthy prison sentence and that sentence be longer than physical assault Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 21 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
It’s a hotbed of indignant, sweary men, apparently. I imagine the Director General will have been disappointed with the 1 year investment bearing in mind all the “undercover investigative reporter” came back with was tales of loudmouth bravado.
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The group cannot be banned under current legislation as they do not advocate terrorism but Dame Sara, the UK's first Counter-Extremism Commissioner, feels they are "creating a climate conducive to terrorism".

Edit: forgot to add the link.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8xykr5v95o

"We spent a year undercover and caught a sperg sperging"

The fuhrer leader of their group is Mark Collett, who was prosecuted along with Nick Griffin in 2006 for talking about... grooming gangs. History would show it was a completely overblown 'moral panic', and they were irrationally stirring up racial hatred Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 28 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Reading that BBC article, I'm confused and nonplused.
They spent a whole year undercover with this group and didn't find anything illegal, but did find some members used bad language and held opinions that they didn't like.
That's a news story, and a reason to call the government to ban this group.

I don't watch broadcast tv and don't usually read or listen to anything produced by the bbc so my exposure to this rubbish is fairly limited. I do however wonder, if I spent a year undercover with the bbc how many paedophiles would I find and what other illegal activities could I report on? Thinking
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 28 Jan 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
BTTD wrote:
They spent a whole year undercover with this group and didn't find anything illegal

Well the undercover journalist admitted to using a fake name, but provided the group a passport with that name so we have one thing.

Dispatches also spent a year undercover with them, and had footage of their undercover journalist being horrifically attacked... by left wing activists whilst they were leafleting.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 02 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Apparently there was a "Free Tommy" protest in London today:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-march-protest-london-arrests-b2690455.html

I can't verify whether the protests actually happened though as there's nothing about it on the BBC News website nor the Guardian Thinking
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 02 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not on the Beeb? didn't happen.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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