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Polarbear
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Bike Prices Reply with quote

Yes, I know everything goes up and gets stupidly expensive but I bought my gen 1 Hayabusa for around 6 or 7 grand new in 2007.

I just looked at this for the deal on the latest busa........

https://www.billsmithmotors.co.uk/offers/suzuki-hayabusa-0-apr-over-4-years-available-on-pcp-or-hp-finance/3389?fbclid=IwY2xjawIX7rxleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHVWFztBq7iV5kldN30eshV5ZQLdGSBV9FxnTmcFS3czc3ENhlqBKOPKjyw_aem_8fK3X2EDtVwoqualKybsWQ

Cash price £18599 Shocked

Fcuk me, that's Goldwing territory.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it was announced at about £14k? Suzukis have been massively cheap for too long, one wonders how they can compete. That said, the new Honda CB1000 Hornet SP is like 9k with Ohlins and all that jazz. It's supposed to be a great bike too.

I did some maths recently with respect to the venerable SV650, and in real terms the SV is half the cash price it was when I bought my one brand new in 2002. I paid £5399, and taking into account inflation with a current price of £7399, that would have been about £4000 in 2002.

One wonders how Suzuki can do it. They don't have the volumes of Honda, nor the Indian and Thai manufacturing facilities. No wonder they are in a bit of trouble?
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Re: Bike Prices Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Yes, I know everything goes up and gets stupidly expensive but I bought my gen 1 Hayabusa for around 6 or 7 grand new in 2007.

I just looked at this for the deal on the latest busa........

https://www.billsmithmotors.co.uk/offers/suzuki-hayabusa-0-apr-over-4-years-available-on-pcp-or-hp-finance/3389?fbclid=IwY2xjawIX7rxleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHVWFztBq7iV5kldN30eshV5ZQLdGSBV9FxnTmcFS3czc3ENhlqBKOPKjyw_aem_8fK3X2EDtVwoqualKybsWQ

Cash price £18599 Shocked

Fcuk me, that's Goldwing territory.


I suggest you don't look at how much Goldwings cost these days then, you might need to be sat down when you look below

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/touring/gl1800-gold-wing/specifications-and-price.html#model=gl1800_tour_dct_2025&bike=goldwing&colour=nh-a30m_digital_silver_metallic

Starting at £25k going up to over £32, and thats before adding any accessories
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand competent bikes from mainstream manufactures can be had new for under £5000 which is not bad and affordable for most.
Most of us don't want a hyabusa let alone a goldwing.
I am liking the recent trend for very decent budget bikes as a way to encourage more riders.
https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/street/gb350s/specifications-and-price.html#model=gb350s_2025&bike=gb350s&colour=nh-c47p_pearl_deep_mud_grey
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
On the other hand competent bikes from mainstream manufactures can be had new for under £5000 which is not bad and affordable for most.
Most of us don't want a hyabusa let alone a goldwing.
I am liking the recent trend for very decent budget bikes as a way to encourage more riders.
https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/street/gb350s/specifications-and-price.html#model=gb350s_2025&bike=gb350s&colour=nh-c47p_pearl_deep_mud_grey


So, cheaper bikes are cheaper? It's not really a revelation is it?

We're talking capable Japanese bikes that aren't A2 suitable really. Otherwise it's not like for like.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
On the other hand competent bikes from mainstream manufactures can be had new for under £5000 which is not bad and affordable for most.
Most of us don't want a hyabusa let alone a goldwing.
I am liking the recent trend for very decent budget bikes as a way to encourage more riders.
https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/street/gb350s/specifications-and-price.html#model=gb350s_2025&bike=gb350s&colour=nh-c47p_pearl_deep_mud_grey


Yes, agreed you can get some decent bikes at a reasonable cost but the reason I commented on the Busa was it came up on my FB as an advert and I owned one back in the day. Same for Goldwings, which are my favorite bikes.

I haven't done the maths on the Busa or Wings that Marjay commented on about how his SV was actually 'cheaper' now than when he bought it, but there is no way in a month of Sundays I could justify that sort of money on a boys toy, whereas 20 years ago it didn't seem quite so bad.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 11 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a time where I said I'd never spend more than 10 grand on a car, let alone a bike. Nowadays? 10 grand is a reasonable price for a bike, and it seems you can't get much with any performance with 4 wheels for less than £25k, and anything vaguely decent is £40k+.

That said, some things are good value, like more humdrum cars, and you can buy a manual V10 Lamborghini Gallardo for £65k which seems like great value (!)
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 12 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touring the bike show again this year and it's quite eye opening how numbers are thrown around like they are nothing. Lots of 20k bikes and more. Lots of manufacturers fighting each other at the same price points all the way up to that aswell.

In the current climate, this is a very good gas bill bike. You pay for it every month and don't worry about it. That hayabusa can be had for £2.5k down and £163 a month and that's all many people will see. At 0% if the insurance hadn't been astronomical I'd have been tempted myself.

But that's why the industry is suffering, those PCP bikes have to go somewhere at the end of it, if they make it that far.

I wonder how many cash buys exist at that end of the market?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 12 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively, you could buy 7kg of bicycle for £17k. Laughing

https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Colnago/V4Rs-Tadej-Pogacar-Special-Edition-Road-Bike/13PC4
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 12 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:


Jesus wept. Shocked

The bit I like in the advert....Free Premier Bike Delivery
Have this bike hand-delivered free of charge by a qualified mechanic to your doorstep. For a limited time, this bike is available via our Premier Bike Delivery free of charge.


At that price I'd want to delivered on the thighs of 20 vestal virgins and assembled by Chris Hoy. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 13 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't want the bike delivered, I'd want to collect it from their shop and for them to include their bike fitting service.

https://www.sigmasports.com/bike-fitting

This video explains it better than their page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMAX40zojms

If you're spending thousands of pounds on a bike then spending a few hundred getting the bike to fit you perfectly doesn't seem unreasonable and if you're the one selling those top end bikes then you want those bikes to be perfect for each customer so including that service with expensive bikes would make sense.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 13 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:


The bit I like in the advert....Free Premier Bike Delivery
Have this bike hand-delivered free of charge by a qualified mechanic to your doorstep. For a limited time, this bike is available via our Premier Bike Delivery free of charge.


But, but.. it's a bicycle - how much qualification do you need FFS!
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 21 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
I wouldn't want the bike delivered, I'd want to collect it from their shop and for them to include their bike fitting service.

https://www.sigmasports.com/bike-fitting

This video explains it better than their page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMAX40zojms

If you're spending thousands of pounds on a bike then spending a few hundred getting the bike to fit you perfectly doesn't seem unreasonable and if you're the one selling those top end bikes then you want those bikes to be perfect for each customer so including that service with expensive bikes would make sense.


If you're well into your cycling and have that much cash, you'd be better off paying someone to basically custom build the bloody thing from scratch, using the latest Reynolds tubing.

TBF top end push bikes are basically a financial pissing contest for mamils with too much money and not enough sense.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 21 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fazer thousand was new on 0% finance in 2007 for £7k.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 22 Feb 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternative way of looking at that hayabusa. Those PCP payments are cheap, despite the huge deposit.

If I had 18.5k sat in my savings account, it would currently be making around £60 a month in interest. This is giving me an option to essentially rent a brand new hayabusa for £120/month. Or probably £140/month with a reasonable deposit.

Seeing as it will depreciate hard, I certainly wouldn't want to own it at that price, but I like the idea of renting it for 2 or 3 times the interest on the purchase price.
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