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jimmaze
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: 250 on l plates Reply with quote

hi all quick question i first had my provisional licence in 81 so i can ride a 250cc on l plates comfirmed by dvla does anybody know off an insurance
company that will insure me struggling to find one..thanks
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A100man
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Re: 250 on l plates Reply with quote

jimmaze wrote:
hi all quick question i first had my provisional licence in 81 so i can ride a 250cc on l plates comfirmed by dvla does anybody know off an insurance
company that will insure me struggling to find one..thanks


You're kidding, right?
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that's correct.

As far as I know, the 125cc learner legal law was retroactive. No Grandfather rights. After 1st of February 1983, provisional motorcycle license holders were only allowed to ride a 125. After December 1990 you also need a CBT.

So. If you have a provisional motorcycle licence, regardless of when it was issued, you are now only allowed to ride a learner legal 125cc bike and only if you also have a current CBT certificate.

DOT advert from 1982 explaining this attached below.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you got something in writing from the DVLA?
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Have you got something in writing from the DVLA?

He must have a provisional licence from 1981 stating can ride up to 250cc.
Unfortunately it will have expired surely.
I think they only gave you two years at that time.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember any time limit on my provisional M/C licence. I had it from moped status at 16 to 250 at 17 until I passed my bike test at 19. (being at sea was a pain forgetting teat time).

Also, if he had a full car licence at that time would the M/C provisional just carry on?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's not a snowballs chance in hell of a legit way to ride a 250 without a full licence today..

.. just think of the 1000s of folk who had this type of licence when 17 in the early 80s and who never took a test. This would have come up before now. This potential loophole was closed in the 1983 as Stinkwheel correctly notes.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
There's not a snowballs chance in hell of a legit way to ride a 250 without a full licence today.


Sidecar.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 18 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
A100man wrote:
There's not a snowballs chance in hell of a legit way to ride a 250 without a full licence today.


Sidecar.


Ah yes the 'Sidewinder'..

https://i0.wp.com/www.bike-urious.com/wp-content/uploads/Sidewinder-sidecar-Front.jpg

https://www.bike-urious.com/uk-nostalgia-project-sidewinder-sidecar/
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 19 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the sidewinder (and any other sidecar) you could ride any cc bike on a provisional then. The 250 only applied to solo bikes.
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 19 Mar 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Ah yes the 'Sidewinder'..

Didn't the Sidewinder loophole get closed too though (can't remember how)? Otherwise surely they would be still around?
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