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PostPosted: 10:00 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: VPNs - who needs 'em Reply with quote

https://order-order.com/2025/07/28/exc-labour-could-ban-vpns-after-online-safety-act-surge/

What a bunch of morons this government are!
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure their chums in China and Russia will have some tips as to how to go about it.
North Korea could be a good partner too.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

VPN Apps have zoomed to the top of the download charts over the weeekend..

..err, apparently Shifty
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no such thing as a VPN ban unless the government wants to go as far as strong-arming banks, credit card companies, PayPal - all payment services essentially - into making purchases of proscribed Internet services verboten to UK residents.

But then there are free and ad-supported services, how would you ban them? Traffic analysis would have to be done by all ISPs to look for... what exactly? Encrypted network traffic?! While not impossible, it's a non-trivial exercise to decrypt and analyse end-to-end encrypted data, in real time I might add.

The government (not just this government but all previous governments of the last few decades) are so thick they'd propose banning all network encryption - nothing to hide, nothing to fear - and say it with a straight face.

Even so, they wouldn't be able to spell let alone understand steganography Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Re: VPNs - who needs 'em Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
https://order-order.com/2025/07/28/exc-labour-could-ban-vpns-after-online-safety-act-surge/

What a bunch of morons this government are!


All this is, is an article dug up from 3 years ago pointing out that the (retarded) online safety bill is a pointless excercise. Nowhere has anyone said they will ban VPNs (not that they could).
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Re: VPNs - who needs 'em Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
panrider_uk wrote:
https://order-order.com/2025/07/28/exc-labour-could-ban-vpns-after-online-safety-act-surge/

What a bunch of morons this government are!


All this is, is an article dug up from 3 years ago pointing out that the (retarded) online safety bill is a pointless excercise. Nowhere has anyone said they will ban VPNs (not that they could).


It depends how determined they are, china for example seems to make it very difficult to access sites they don't approve of and using a VPN is somehow made almost impossible too.

Having brainlessly brought this in it will be difficult to repeal due to all the think of the children backlash.
Besides I'm sure they like the idea of making other things they don't approve off harder to access - just like youtube putting info boxes about what is approved think regarding climate change.
This could be expanded to a range of subjects most topically all those hard right immigrant extremists
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

It never was and never will be about saving the children or they wouldn't import paedo rapists en masse.

Crush all dissent. This is about control.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://pornbiz.com/post/17/the_scam_of_age_verification

Worth a read
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 28 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I'm banned from bringing up an AWS instance in USA location and configuring that as a vpn?

or they just gonna "ban nordvpn" apps.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
https://pornbiz.com/post/17/the_scam_of_age_verification

Worth a read


I notice it mentions facial look estimation of age..

I wonder, does one have to be gurning or 'turning Japanese' at the time to make this effective?

PS My brother thinks this whole palava will prompt a resurgance of jazz-mag porn - I kinda hope he's right.

Razzle anyone?
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A petition to repeal it is online:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

Although it'll need Reform to get in to actually do something.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

from someone at work

porn00.tv

no verification required
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:
A petition to repeal it is online:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

Although it'll need Reform to get in to actually do something.


Ah yes, where parliament considers petitions and the government says no. I predict that will also include Reform Sad
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

They already 'answered' it.

WEF wrote:
The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

how long before the ban includes any website that posts "far right" (anything not state approved) political views...
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 29 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope they dont ban VPNs. I know a guy thats managed to watch all the Lions games for free!
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Kyle says Nigel Farage is on side of ‘people like Jimmy Savile’ in online safety row

The year is 2030, BCF is still running but now all threads devolve by invoking Jimmy Savile on the third page instead of Adolf Hitler Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
how long before the ban includes any website that posts "far right" (anything not state approved) political views...


Which 'ban' do you speak of, there has been no ban on any website so far as i can tell
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpsmith79 wrote:

Which 'ban' do you speak of, there has been no ban on any website so far as i can tell


Ahh, but is that because they are banned and therefore you can't see them. How would you be able to tell?
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Peter Kyle says Nigel Farage is on side of ‘people like Jimmy Savile’ in online safety row

The year is 2030, BCF is still running but now all threads devolve by invoking Jimmy Savile on the third page instead of Adolf Hitler Rolling Eyes


but wasnt it Queer Starmer that defended Savile and kept him out of jail?
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter Kyle has skeletons in his closet too it is all like a who-dunnit novel.
And at the end we will all think how very dare he.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpsmith79 wrote:
to v or not to v wrote:
how long before the ban includes any website that posts "far right" (anything not state approved) political views...


Which 'ban' do you speak of, there has been no ban on any website so far as i can tell


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQDC4EklerM
From 2:30
Blackbelt Barrister showing that searches on Reddit (in this case for alcoholism) show results on a VPN that don't show up without one.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 30 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benito Mussolini wrote:
Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato.

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PostPosted: 11:29 - 31 Jul 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

panrider_uk wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQDC4EklerM
From 2:30
Blackbelt Barrister showing that searches on Reddit (in this case for alcoholism) show results on a VPN that don't show up without one.


To be clear, I am anti anything to do with this stupid and backwards online safety bill but this is Reddits choice, not our governments. They have a blanket NSFW system for anything puritantical Americans might find offensive and they apply it to loads of sub reddits and have done for years.

It is easier for Reddit to just blanket restrict access due to our ridiculous policies than make another tag for sub reddits that only contain things on the OSB list. So this is not state approved banning of a particular subject, it is the end result of a poorly thought out policy.
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 01 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
They already 'answered' it.

WEF wrote:
The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.


Ah yes, the old 'It's all for you' mantra. You should be getting used to hearing this by now, and you're going to hear it a lot more too.

What they're not saying is that to comply with all these sign ins/accounts you'll need to submit your biometric data to get a digital ID. With your biometric data (facial and fingerprint) you can instantly be tracked/ID'ed whenever you go out, anywhere in the world, and if not now, it'll be pretty soon.

But very quietly expanded to encompass everyone and everything.

But remember 'It's all for you'.
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