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Tony Norton
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 14 Aug 2025    Post subject: 24 Eliminator, brake light on with ignition. Reply with quote

Help!

I went for a run in the country yesterday and got fed up with having to keep my right toe lifted to ensure I was not riding the rear brake.

This morning I put the bike on paddock stands and adjusted the rear brake pedal down about a centimeter. That doesn't take much adjustment on the thrust rod. Now, when I switch on the ignition, the brake light is on. Neither front nor rear brakes are engaged, which is verified by the fact that both wheels spin easily.

When I raise the pedal back to it's original position the brake light still comes on with the ignition.

Does anybody know just what is going on?

Any advice would be most welcome.

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PostPosted: 14:41 - 14 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the pedal's gone down the other end must have gone up and usually this end is connected to a switch. This switch will need moving/adjusting.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 14 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. Switch will need manual calibration. Or just unplug it. Cool
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 14 Aug 2025    Post subject: I wish it were that easy. Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
If the pedal's gone down the other end must have gone up and usually this end is connected to a switch. This switch will need moving/adjusting.


Unfortunately there isn't a switch in the region of the linkage. The routing of the hydraulic piping seems to indicate that there is a hydraulically operated switch, buried somewhere the bowels of the bike. I can't find it.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 14 Aug 2025    Post subject: Re: I wish it were that easy. Reply with quote

Tony Norton wrote:


Unfortunately there isn't a switch in the region of the linkage. The routing of the hydraulic piping seems to indicate that there is a hydraulically operated switch, buried somewhere the bowels of the bike. I can't find it.


Look closer. The 500 ninja from that year takes a conventional brake light switch so it stands to reason the eliminator does too. I've never seen a Japanese bike use a hydraulic brake light switch (although in my oppinion, they all should).

It can be on the other end of a long, thin spring which attaches to the lever somewhere. It can sometimes even be up the middle of the return spring and/or tucked up behind the footpeg bracket or heel rub plate.

I stand ready to be corrected, it might have a hydraulic switch, I've just never seen one. Such things are usually built into the banjo bolt on the master cylinder.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 15 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's a hydraulic switch but I'll admit I struggled to figure out how it's done from the parts diagram.

https://i.imgur.com/KoniwUI.png

Source: https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/kaw/65aa036dd10fbdf58374f9c5/ignition-switch-locks-reflectors

If I were to guess I'd say screw 120A interfaces with microswitch 27010A in such a way that when you press the pedal down the microswitch opens and the magic happens. One would need to release the locking nut 317, screw in 120A until the 27010A is closed... I think... maybe... Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 15 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
I don't think it's a hydraulic switch but I'll admit I struggled to figure out how it's done from the parts diagram.

https://i.imgur.com/KoniwUI.png

Source: https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/kaw/65aa036dd10fbdf58374f9c5/ignition-switch-locks-reflectors

If I were to guess I'd say screw 120A interfaces with microswitch 27010A in such a way that when you press the pedal down the microswitch opens and the magic happens. One would need to release the locking nut 317, screw in 120A until the 27010A is closed... I think... maybe... Laughing


Ooh, that's a new one. A normally closed microswitch -presumably with little plastic tabs to stop it moving- for a rear brake light switch. Kawasaki must have been taking lessons off the Chinese. I wonder what the IP rating of that switch is. I'm guessing IP40.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 15 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Easy-X wrote:
I don't think it's a hydraulic switch but I'll admit I struggled to figure out how it's done from the parts diagram.


I agree, I looked at that drawing and concluded it told me nothing. There is nothing, apart from hydraulic pipes, leading to, or from, the rear brake master cylinder, which is actuated directly from the arse end of the brake lever.

It looks like a trip to my friendly local Kawasaki dealer is in order. it should have been such a simple job!
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 15 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the above pisture is accurate, the black line from the mounting bolt (220) to the bracket shows where the switch attaches to the frame lug. I circled it in red.

You should find and adjuster bolt and locknut on the inside face of the brake lever, screwed up from the bottom into a lug which sticks out from the top edge of the lever, just in front of the pivot.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 16 Aug 2025    Post subject: 24 Eliminator, brake light on with ignition. Reply with quote

Stinkwheel,

you,sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. The info you gave me was exactly what I needed. I never realised how easy it was to get to the switch adjustment.

The only snag I had to overcome was that the hex skt set screw that Kawasaki fit is only 30mm long, and even when fully screwed in, the brake light would not go off. I tested it with a 50mm long 8mm button head (bright stainless steel) I had in stock, and calculated that I needed 40mm length. a small quantity of black (stainless steel) socket caps will be with me tomorrow. Amazon is a handy shop.

Once again, many thanks, and thanks also to Easy-X, who started off this train of thought.

Tony
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