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FF68
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 17 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:

We've no idea what section public order offence you were arrested for


When I was arrested it was Section 4 Public Order and Common Assault just for swearing twice but I was the victim in this situation as the other person actually put his hands on me and threw me on the ground.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 17 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
The police know your identity and address and they also know enough about the identity of the person with the footage to know they had no business being there. If I were to take a guess you were... conversing with a drug dealer or some other similar miscreant who also happens to be a police informant.
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FF68
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 17 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:

You don't get to choose whether or not to accept any charges, they tell you that you're being charged and that would mean you're being prosecuted and will be taken to court


What I meant by that is I won't accept any deals or plead guilty if they actually are dumb enough to charge me (an innocent victim) over this situation.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 17 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're going to have difficulty playing the innocent victim card as you approached them and they've got a video of you shouting and swearing and being aggressive.

You need decent legal advice otherwise you're going to be fucked in October. Give them all the details, do not drip feed the details to them like you have been here. As much as they'll be used to needing to coax information from their clients, it's in your best interests to provide them with all the salient facts up front.

I hope that the duty solicitor at the police station already advised you to make detailed notes about everything that happened prior to and after the video recording.

You could ask your neighbours to see if anyone has doorbell camera footage or if any of their cars in the residents only car park have sentry mode security that recorded the incident. I use the word "could" because you don't want footage to surface if it's not going to help you.
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 18 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're a twat for going at them with profanity and loudness before they'd even had a chance to explain themselves. How were they to know you weren't about to start kicking their car in? Never mind if they were there to drop off some 'produce' to a punter and you were bringing it on top.

And then, to top it all off, you whined to the old bill. Don't write a cheque you can't cash.
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FF68
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 18 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
otherwise you're going to be fucked in October.


That comment concerns me quite a lot. Can you elaborate?
I'm not going to take what you say as official legal advice but I'm just interested in your general opinion...
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Ste
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 18 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
FF68 wrote:
Can you elaborate?

1. Because they've got a video of you committing the offences.

2. You're the one who approached them so trying to claim that you're an innocent victim is laughable.

3. You don't want to help yourself by getting legal advice from solicitors who have the appropriate expertise.

If you want it to go to court then you're going about it the right way. Thumbs Up
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FF68
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 19 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
FF68 wrote:
Can you elaborate?


2. You're the one who approached them so trying to claim that you're an innocent victim is laughable.


But how can it be classed as a crime just for acting in a neighbourhood watch sense, trying to prevent anti social behaviour, and being concerned about potential damage to or theft of my own vehicle?
If I would've called 999 about the matter when I couldn't actually see a crime in progress the rozzers would've given me a lecture about wasting Police time using 999 instead of calling that useless 101 number.

I really don't see how pointing a finger at someone (not a clenched fist), and raising my voice, and saying the "fook" word twice, can be classed as aggressive or intimidating or personally abusive towards someone.
The world must've gone soft since I was a lad many years ago...
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 19 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
FF68 wrote:
I really don't see how

Public Order Act 1986, section 4, fear or provocation of violence.

A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a) uses towards another person threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or

(b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4

That's how.

Have you seen the video yourself?
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FF68
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 19 Aug 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
FF68 wrote:
I really don't see how

Public Order Act 1986, section 4, fear or provocation of violence.

A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a) uses towards another person threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or

(b) distributes or displays to another person any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person, or to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another, or whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used or it is likely that such violence will be provoked.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4

That's how.

Have you seen the video yourself?


Well I will take all this up with my solicitor if they proceed and charge me with this b/s but:

a) I didn't threaten anyone or show any signs of aggression or violence. I was just concerned and wanting to ask questions and get answers.

b) The other person had no reason to put his hands on me and throw me on the floor. That was "actual" physical assault and it was his choice to do that, unprovoked, based on his own stupid assessment of the situation in his own head.

c) If I felt in fear of violence, the first thing I would do is back off or run away if I didn't want any trouble. The last thing I would do is attack the person I was "allegedly" scared of.

Yes I've seen his 2 minute footage and it proves my point. He had no reason to put his hands on me and "he" approached me first filming me on his phone. All I was doing was talking to (trying to) the people in the strange car and trying to find out who they were and what they were doing in a residents only car park.
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