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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: I did do learn a new word Reply with quote

Enshittification

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Enshittification, also known as crapification and platform decay, is a pattern in which two-sided online products and services decline in quality over time.
Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.
Canadian writer Cory Doctorow coined the neologism enshittification in November 2022, though he was not the first to describe and label the concept
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also defined (in the UK) as Nationalisation….. of utilities and public transport etc Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Re: I did do learn a new word Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Enshittification

From wiki:

Enshittification, also known as crapification and platform decay, is a pattern in which two-sided online products and services decline in quality over time.
Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.
Canadian writer Cory Doctorow coined the neologism enshittification in November 2022, though he was not the first to describe and label the concept


Then presumably sell you a "new" version which "fixes" all the problems and the cycle styarts again.

It's not a new concept, microsoft have been doing it in a constant cycle for the last 35 years.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photobucket springs to mind.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most new fast food outlets work on this principle. Decent food and portion swhen they open to build up a reputation followed by a slow decline in quality and portion size.

Our local Creams was great when it opened but went downhill rather quickly.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago I worked for a “food” company, mainly instant desserts composed of cornstarch and additives. I won’t say who or what but it would have delighted angels. Every so often the blend would be revised and if a tasting panel couldn’t spot the difference in a “triangle test” (three pots, one with the new recipe and two containing the old, or vice versa) it was marketed as ‘new improved!’ The trick was the ‘old’ recipe was always the most recent one, not the original, and this incremental process was mostly a cost-cutting exercise. I imagine if anyone ever got to taste the original recipe to compare with the latest one the difference would have been stark. I think you can still buy the stuff so the expected ‘enshittification’ can’t have happened…. can it?
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 07 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Years ago I worked for a “food” company, mainly instant desserts composed of cornstarch and additives. I won’t say who or what but it would have delighted angels. Every so often the blend would be revised and if a tasting panel couldn’t spot the difference in a “triangle test” (three pots, one with the new recipe and two containing the old, or vice versa) it was marketed as ‘new improved!’ The trick was the ‘old’ recipe was always the most recent one, not the original, and this incremental process was mostly a cost-cutting exercise. I imagine if anyone ever got to taste the original recipe to compare with the latest one the difference would have been stark. I think you can still buy the stuff so the expected ‘enshittification’ can’t have happened…. can it?


They did literally this with rocks blackcurrant cordial, something I drink a LOT of. Substituted nearly half the blackcurrant juice with aronia berry juice (which are basically a weed, a cheap bulking ingredient with a vaguely blackcurrant-adjacent flavour) and said they checked it with a taste panel and they couldn't tell the difference. Well, I could tell immediately.

I'd imagine most of their customers are super-tasters who can detect the artificial sweeteners in pretty much all the other brands of cordial. I wonder if their tasting panel was chosen from their self-selected consumer base who are prepared to pay more than double what their competitors were charging for the product? Also an around 80% reduction in vitamin C content because aronia berries aren't blackcurrants (and I'm partly buying it for the vit C content which is helpful for controlling gout).

Well, it cost them at least one customer. Just like it cost ribena a customer when they started putting artificial sweeteners in it. I'm now on Pixley blackcurrant, outrageously expensive but pretty much the only one now that is made out of blackcurrants and no artificial sweeteners or bulking ingredients. If that one goes, I'll have to start making my own.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 12 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point d'ordure:

Is this a thread about food or about words/grammar?

Just so, y'know - I can misdirect the conversation appropriately.

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