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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 18 Sep 2025    Post subject: Rear hub stud unscrewed. Reply with quote

I’m putting a new chain and sprockets on my 2003 R1. All seemed to be going well until I undid the self-locking nuts from the drive hub to remove the rear sprocket. One of the nuts didn’t release its grip and just unscrewed the whole stud instead. I can’t see any swarf so should I just screw it back in and finish the job? (Seems unlikely knowing my luck.)

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PostPosted: 16:13 - 18 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, maybe chuck for thread lock on it for peace of mind Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 18 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was me, I'd lock two nuts on the end of the stud, undo the nylok nut, clean the threads then re-insert the stud with blue loctite and reassemble as normal.
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PostPosted: 07:28 - 19 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would buy new .. they are not that much from fowlers , Bristol.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 19 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was the inner thread I was concerned about but the stud went back in without any more drama and the rear sprocket is on.

My new Wemoto chain tool (£24 cheap but their only other offering was a knock-off DID tool) has holes in the press plate that don’t quite align with the rivets so I can’t install the chain’s side plate. Chinese quality control. I’m now considering whether I should drill the tool to try to make it fit, or buy a better tool (though they all seem to be made in China).
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 19 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned by both stinkwheel and myself, you need to put threadlock on it ... vibration will not undo the lock nut, but it can make the stud work its way out ... I speak from experience Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 20 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
It was the inner thread I was concerned about but the stud went back in without any more drama and the rear sprocket is on.

My new Wemoto chain tool (£24 cheap but their only other offering was a knock-off DID tool) has holes in the press plate that don’t quite align with the rivets so I can’t install the chain’s side plate. Chinese quality control. I’m now considering whether I should drill the tool to try to make it fit, or buy a better tool (though they all seem to be made in China).


I have a Motion-Pro chain tool and it has been the best tool for so many types of chain,from a cam chain soft link on a KTM enduro and the chains with soft links on all of my bikes,even the XR400.
So as to use the bits that I have in the kit,the anvil was positioned behind the pin and the open end of the tool was used to push on the outer plate.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 20 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blue Loctite’d it as suggested although the service manual doesn’t require that, but I found an on-line discussion suggesting the torque setting given in the service manual is too high.

https://www.600riders.com/threads/rear-sprocket-carrier-failed-studs.53487/

That, combined with those initially lubricated threads and the age-hardened Nyloc nuts convinced me to tighten using “feel” (and I’ve poo-poohed that advice in the past but having used torque wrenches for some time now I think I have developed “feel”). That translated to 70Nm instead of 100, but I’ll check after a few miles.

I’m sending the chain tool back to Wemoto for a refund and I’ve stumped up for an authentic DID chain tool from M&P. The Wemoto’s side-plate insertion plate has holes about 2mm too far apart when compared to the chain rivets, as shown alongside the rivet “potato-prints” in the photos.

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PostPosted: 08:10 - 21 Sep 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda Blackbird specifies 108NM
'busa and GSXR1000 specify 60nm

I'd replace the stud with permanent threadlock because they are not intended for removal, and torque the nut to the factory spec with no threadlock.
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