Leaving the ECHR

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Today all - and I do mean all - Lib Dem associated accounts simultaneously tweeted about how they defeated Farage's 10 min bill to get out of ECHR. (If you're unfamiliar with 10 min bills they're really only meant as publicity pieces. Out of thousands, only a handful ever get on the books.)

Why would the Libs be so triumphant? Not explained in any of the posts or on BBC News or anywhere really is that Labour didn't want to get involved Only under extreme pressure did they let their back bench MPs wade in and really it's them that made the difference not the Lib Dems. The bill failed by 58 votes, Labour votes against? 63.

As an aside, Stella Creasy* made out even having the vote would confuse our European neighbours. Apparently the French, Germans, etc. can't manage to Google search "10 min bill" Practically every European country has some anti-EU party lurking about. I can't see how the UK - famous for Brexit - would be expected to have a cross-party pro-European unified front even amongst the most optimistic in Brussels.

*Had to dig through the Guardian website to find this.
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Dim Labour MP Richard Burgon boasted on X that,

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Are you likely to engage with stuff you agree with or just click like and move on? If the algorithm can make you angry you're more likely to post a comment which equals engagement and that's what the system's tuned for.

The difference with Facebook is they like to ban people at the drop of a hat. The algorithm wants engagement but the moderation system wants conformity and you can't have both.
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I don’t engage, I just read. I reckon Facebook has spotted that I read Guido Fawkes and is trying to counter that website’s right wing politics. I don’t agree with all on that website, but some. When it comes to consumerism Facebook plies me with stuff it knows I’m interested in. Politically then, I would expect to see pro-right wing stuff from Facebook. The fact that I’m not seeing any of that at all is both interesting and disturbing.

I don’t even think I am right wing, my old left wing views remain while the modern framing of political discourse has artificially moved me to the right. Old-fashioned left wingers believed in the respect given and received through hard work with an expectation that the State would support them in hard times until they got back on their feet. Globalisation in pursuit of profits has denuded this country and Socialism now seems to be all about giving handouts to people who won’t work or have gate-crashed the place. Socialism is also increasingly about Big State; an expensive, inefficient bureaucracy controlling everything.

Farage is unlikely to be the answer but he’ll be used to slap the Establishment in the face hoping they’ll shift their position. If that doesn’t work I fear for this country’s future. All that’s left to us will be either blind obedience and apathy, or violent revolution.

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The Tories weren’t much better, although to be fair to conservatism they were somehow dominated by Lib Dem insurgents so we don’t know how it might have gone under an archetypal stern Conservative government. The Tories let that happen though.

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I did see a post saying "the Far Right are calling for a national strike" but I can only find entirely synthesised hysteria coming from the Far Left about some event earlier in May.
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