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MarJay
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 20 Dec 2025    Post subject: Good from far, Far from good - 90s Sportsbike content inside Reply with quote

So I did a thing...

Henry Cole on the Motorbike show has an occasional saying about the project bikes he buys - Good from far, far from good. This covers my latest purchase I think!

I spotted a bike on Facebook marketplace. It had been for sale for a while, and had already been reduced in price. I liked the livery, and sort of always fancied one ever since I started riding in 1998. This is the sort of bike that would have been hanging around in second hand dealerships when I started riding, but there's no chance I'd get insured on one back then.

Now however, a quote for £50 probably shows me I'm old. The bike too, but mainly me.

I went to look at it, and it had issues. It wasn't starting but the owner said he thought he could fix it. He had already replaced the low pressure fuel pump once, but let slip that he had run the bike with the fuel tap off to try to empty the carbs, and I can't imagine that would do the fuel pump any good...

Anyway He sent me a message saying that he had bypassed the pump and it was running OK, so I went to go for a quick test ride.

There were... issues...

It needs a new fuel pump (already mentioned), the regulator rectifier may be on it's way out (the indicators flashed faster as it was revved), the camchain is rattly, a couple of bolts are missing, the front brake is more of an 'engine braking' style affair, but I'm glad to report that the rear brake is very very good.

But it's weirdly comfy, it seems to corner OK even if the rear shock is VERY soft and it does go OK.

So I had sort of decided I didn't really want it, so I was honest and I told the feller what I thought it was worth. He then accepted that as an offer...



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I paid the grand total of a grand for this - that's right. A FireBlade for £1000. I'm tentatively happy because I think I can fix many of the issues for minimal outlay... or it could become a huge money pit!

I just about have space for it - and didn't really intend to buy another bike, but I couldn't really refuse. And the worst comes to the worst I could make my money back by breaking it. I don't want to do that though, I want to make it into a rider. Probably not a show bike, but certainly a nice rider.

I open myself up to your congratulations, or perhaps more likely, your ridicule.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 20 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
....I'm tentatively happy because I think I can fix many of the issues for minimal outlay... or it could become a huge money pit!

That's the risk you take when you buy a 25-year-old sportbike with "issues", but I can see why you were tempted...that is a good looking machine. Good news is that you can probably find all the parts you need without too much trouble. Hopefully, as you progress with your repairs you will not discover other issues that you don't already know about. May I suggest you post your progress on "show and tell", so we can follow along. Thanks for posting.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 20 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks amazing for such a paltry sum. Best of luck with the repairs Thumbs Up
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 20 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
May I suggest you post your progress on "show and tell", so we can follow along. Thanks for posting.


Yep, absolutely. Maybe even a magazine article or two… you never know!
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 20 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
That's the risk you take when you buy a 25-year-old sportbike


Laughing

Awesome.. can’t wait to see / hear how it goes!
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 21 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend facet fuel pumps as being a nice thing to have.

It's from the era when honda still designed bikes to be worked on so there's nothing you mentioned that would be a total deal breaker. It's not your first rodeo so you knew what you were getting into in terms of costs adding up when it comes to fiddly little things like cables, seals, fittings etc..
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 21 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

One interesting event that occurred when I test rode it..

I came back from the test ride and immediately listed the issues:

The aforementioned fuel pump, the possible reg rec, the rear shock being quite soft and the forks being very hard, the missing bolts, the camchain rattle (oh! the camchain rattle!) and the guy said to me:

"Wow, you've sized it up pretty well, and you were only out for 15 minutes."

I was like... well yeah, I've been riding for 26 years and have owned 35 bikes in that time... But I thought about it and I realised a young n00b might not be able to spot those things. So as you say Stinkwheel, this is not my first rodeo!

Oh god. Am I the old hand now? The grizzled old veteran? F*ck I'm old.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 21 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
... F*ck I'm old.

You know the old adage, "Old age is not for wimps".
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 21 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
MarJay wrote:
... F*ck I'm old.

You know the old adage, "Old age is not for wimps".


Yeah, stop that nonsense, 'experienced' yes, 'interesting', maybe, 'old' do fuck off.
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, let's look at it this way. You just bought a fireblade.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Well, let's look at it this way. You just bought a fireblade.

Yes, but it is 30 years old. The equivalent age of bike when I started riding would be a 1968 bike. Seeing as it was seen as the greatest Superbike and so on, a game changer, but affordable by the Everyman… it’s probably analogous to a 1968 Triumph Bonneville!

If Steve McQueen was born 30 years later, would he have ridden a FireBlade? Maybe…
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the same about 6 months ago, bought a 1999 blade, but spent £1000 more than you. That looks a right bargain.

I thought the carb'd Blades were gravity fed? Mine doesn't have a fuel pump, all it needed were the carbs cleaned out. There was no petrol filter, just a gauze strainer in the tank, but that'd split so was letting muck through.

Good luck, but my bet will be that'll it'll be an easy fix. Early Honda's are great, nice and simple
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a bargain. If it runs ok and has six working gears the rest is incidental.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

markpc wrote:
I did the same about 6 months ago, bought a 1999 blade, but spent £1000 more than you. That looks a right bargain.

I thought the carb'd Blades were gravity fed? Mine doesn't have a fuel pump, all it needed were the carbs cleaned out. There was no petrol filter, just a gauze strainer in the tank, but that'd split so was letting muck through.

Good luck, but my bet will be that'll it'll be an easy fix. Early Honda's are great, nice and simple


The 1992 to 1994 and 1994 to 1996 bikes both bave a low pressure fuel pump. Honda found it was more trouble than it's worth and ditched it for the later 16in wheel 'blades.

redeem ouzzer wrote:
That's a bargain. If it runs ok and has six working gears the rest is incidental.


It does ride ok and the gearbox is really nice and slick, it feels more like a Suzuki than a Honda. But it rattles to f*ck because of the camchain tensioner (I hope) and it doesn't feel massively quick. It may be because of the bikes I'm used to which are all quicker on paper. The Street Triple doesn't have as much power, but it weighs about as much as my left leg so has loads of get up and go. The KR1S is a madman, and the two Suzukis both have more power than this bike by a long way. I hope it doesn't have some sort of terminal engine issue, but I guess I'll find out when I fit the manual camchain tensioner.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another source of rattling on hondas of that era is the clutch basket springs. They can be loud and intrusive, generally changes in volume as you pull and let out the clutch.

They can be replaced/shimmed if you can be bothered drilling out a load of rivets then re-riveting them. I don't think them rattling makes a blind bit of difference to function. My VFR sounds like a Ducati on a stationary hot idle with the clutch out.

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Yes, but it is 30 years old. The equivalent age of bike when I started riding would be a 1968 bike. Seeing as it was seen as the greatest Superbike and so on, a game changer, but affordable by the Everyman… it’s probably analogous to a 1968 Triumph Bonneville!


Peak sportsbike really. I'd imagine most younger riders would be scared to death of it. A 130bhp/180kg superbike with bleeding edge handling and no rider aids of any sort. I know the new 'blades are closer to 200bhp but I bet you have to twiddle a lot of knobs to get it all and I also bet they automatically take the toys away from you if you arent playing with them nicely.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

Peak sportsbike really. I'd imagine most younger riders would be scared to death of it. A 130bhp/180kg superbike with bleeding edge handling and no rider aids of any sort. I know the new 'blades are closer to 200bhp but I bet you have to twiddle a lot of knobs to get it all and I also bet they automatically take the toys away from you if you arent playing with them nicely.


The clutch basket does rattle a little bit, but this is either the camchain tensioner or a big end bearing - Which wouldn't allow the engine to spin up as smoothly as it does. I'm 99% certain it's the camchain.

I sort of agree that it's peak sportsbike - but it's really peak *road* sportsbike. Nowadays pretty much every sportsbike is designed to win a particular race category. I'd posit that actually this is the BMW GS of the early 90s. Spectacularly popular, and also undeniably capable, it's formed into the shape of the type of bike that happens to be in fashion at the time (now, big off roader, then superbike). People who own them do it all with them, go to the shops, leisure rides on a sunny Sunday and 2 up touring of Europe. There are so many about you're bound to see another on a Sunday ride of their era. Magazines will have one on the cover nearly every other month.

The 90's were just better, weren't they?
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is bloody loveleh and an absolute bargain, Thumbs Up.

To this day, I still look upon my RR-W Blade as probably the best bike I've owned. Was like riding a 160mph armchair it was so comfortable and the engine was a peach. Shame I snapped it in half really.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


The 90's were just better, weren't they?


In every way..

My FZ750 is about the fastest I've ridden but that should be pedestrian compared to the 'blade. If compression checks out, and the carbs are in tune there can't be any reason why it doesn't make full power - can there?
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 22 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
MarJay wrote:


The 90's were just better, weren't they?


In every way..

My FZ750 is about the fastest I've ridden but that should be pedestrian compared to the 'blade. If compression checks out, and the carbs are in tune there can't be any reason why it doesn't make full power - can there?


Apparently they are immensely variable, ranging from 105bhp at the wheel to 120bhp at the wheel and as I understand it, it was all down to how they were run in. I have no idea with this one. It felt sprightly, but not as quick as my Street Triple or my GSX-S1000F. The Street is unfaired though, and the GSX-S has 150bhp or so... I'm looking forward to getting it to run properly to see what it can really do. MY VFR800 also felt a bit sluggish, so maybe it's to do with 90s Honda aerodynamics working to make the bike feel slower than it is.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 23 Dec 2025    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure thats a RRR or an RRS, they will run without a fuel pump if the tank is full.
The fuel pump you can just solder a new set of points into it, cost about £10 or fit a facet if you want to spend £100.
Often the Fuel Filter has collapsed internally, I might have a few new ones, not sure.
The fork lowers, where the tube enters the knuckle they split on the inside by the disk, it's caused by corrosion. If yours have, let me know, I have a few sets kicking around.
You will likely have to do the 17" conversion, 16" tyres are a bit scarce these days.
Very simple bikes to work on.

Had to change the Cam-chain on mine at 40k, stopped the rattles.

They are fun bikes, very capable even against modern bikes.

jeffyjeff wrote:
Good news is that you can probably find all the parts you need without too much trouble.


No, lots of parts a NLA.
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